Hoi,
The notion that Commonists are second class contributors is plain wrong. It
has not been said, certainly not by me. Commons as a project provides a
service to all projects in a similar way that Wikidata does. When you
compare those two to the "other" projects, the others are insular what they
do from a community point of view is largely irrelevant in the wider
community.

It is exactly the fact that Commons and Wikidata are sharing their
resources that gives them the potential to be a more social project, more
inclusive. It already has the shared relevance, when its community "gets
it" that its actions have a wider, more global effect, it may become more
sociable and thereby more effective.
Thanks.
     GerardM


On 21 June 2014 06:34, Rama Neko <[email protected]> wrote:

> Commons is not there to serve other projects. Commons is a project of its
> own standing, and the other projects are there to serve it just as much as
> it is there to serve other projects.
>
> It is really dispiriting to see how certain people see Commonists as some
> sort of second-class contributors. That is wrong in every sense of the word
> -- it is an error and an injustice.
>   -- Rama
>
>
>
> On 20 June 2014 23:45, David Gerard <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On 20 June 2014 22:28, Gerard Meijssen <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > Blocking because people do not agree with you is very much
>> antagonising. The
>> > intention is that Commons serves other projects so why is someone
>> blocked
>> > when they make sure people take notice of what is happening at Commons?
>> > I fins it is rather offensive all these !@#$%%. It gives the impression
>> that
>> > there is no conversation possible and that it has degenerated into a
>> power
>> > play.
>>
>>
>>
>> I've noted before: If Commons doesn't want to be regarded as a problem
>> by other projects, it really needs to start behaving less like one.
>>
>>
>> - d.
>>
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