Hi Ronald > On 20 Aug 2020, at 18:23, Ronald F. Guilmette <r...@tristatelogic.com> wrote: > > In message <49bf4107-8fc6-4107-99f9-155c138ff...@gmail.com>, > Mike Silber <silber.m...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Ad hominem attacks such as these are not welcome on this list or in this >> community. >> >> While Mr Guilmette expressed his disappointment at the fact that his queries >> were not responded to in a transparent manner - I did not see any allegation >> such as you have made. > > I did far more than merely expressing my disappointment at the utter lack > of transparency. I said quite plainly that I have been stonewalled for > months by AFRINIC management and staff AND that I have no idea why > AFRINIC is (purportedly) being sued by Mr. Cohen, since AFRINIC management > and staff have allowed Mr. Cohen to keep nearly 100% of his stolen booty > for more than 8.5 months now.... a clear and provable fact for which > no one has yet provided *any* explanation. (Jan Vermeulen's big article > about all of the thefts in AFRINIC was published on December 4th, 2019. > That was actually a full 8.5 months ago!)
I noted your comments and I apologise if I did not repeat them in full. I don’t think you have been stonewalled, rather I think the community has been stonewalled. I am aware of some of the hard work that has been going on behind the scenes to address these issues. I don’t think that your characterisation is correct, but from publicly available information - I understand why you hold that view! I also do not understand why AfriNIC is so reticent about providing details of the litigation. I think its stems from a complete mis-understanding of the sub-juice rule. Still - if the AfriNIC CEO and Board are being provided with legal advice - there may be some reason why they do not release the papers. Possibly there is something specific to the Mauritian legal process - because I simply fail to understand the logic. I agree that it does not look good. > > Mike, rather than haranguing this A.T. Jane person for bad manners, why > don't you, as a member of the community, start asking some of the questions > that I have asked, and that management and the board are all clearly quite > reluctant to provide answers I can walk and chew gum at the same time. Why not both? > for, such as: > > *) Why after 8.5 months have none of the legacy block illicit WHOIS > modifications been undone? Who is responsible for un-doing these > illicit changes to the WHOIS and why hasn't that person been doing > their job? Isn't Eddy the ultimate responsible party here? What is > his excuse for allowing these problems to languish, with no end in > sight? I am aware of a project underway. I think it will be useful if the community were given real detail and not vague platitudes. > > *) What is Mr. Cohen -actually- suing AFRINIC for? AFRINIC management > and staff have -provably- allowed Mr. Cohen to keep nearly all of his > ill-gotten booty... all except the parts that the actual legacy holders > themselves took back (e.g. Sasol, the City of Cape Town, and Columbus > Stainless). So why on earth would Cohen be suing AFRINIC? Great Question - maybe AfriNIC’s counsel and actually provide the details, rather than making the CEO utter vague platitudes. > > *) Why has every single reasonable request I have made, e.g. for historical > WHOIS information needed to complete my investigation of these matters, > been consistantly and 100% stonewalled by both Eddy and Madhvi? Great question. > > *) Who permanently "disappeared" part of the WHOIS history for the > 196.16.0.0/14 block, and why? > > *) Why is the legal complaint in this alleged legal action, by Mr. Cohen, > and against AFRINIC, being kept secret from both the public and even from > the dues-paying members of AFRINIC who have a clear right to see it? And > why do the dues-paying members of AFRINIC even tolerate this attempt to > hide the facts which they have a right to know? More to the point, who > is benefitting from this attempt by management and/or the board to hide > the full facts from the dues-paying members? I suspect a judicious application of Hanlon’s Razor will give you your answer. However, I do understand why the unexplained secrecy leads you to further questions. > > *) Who did Mr. Cohen allegedly "buy" all of the stolen legacy blcoks from? > It had to be some AFRINIC insider... someone who could fiddle the WHOIS > records at will. So who ELSE, in addition to Ernest, has been profiting > from the looting of AFRINIC? I am not sure AfriNIC would have that information and I am not sure your conclusion is justified. Still - absent transparency, I do understand how you got there. > > *) Who else did Ernest implicate when he was confronted with the evidence > of his crimes by the board and management at the AFRINIC meeting in > Luanda, Angola in early December, 2019? How do you know anyone was implicated? > > Mike, rather than spending your electrons chastizing list posters for > their bad manners, wouldn't it be a more productive use of your time > to join me in seeking answers to the above unanswered questions? Don't > you think that it is about time that this colossal mess and this colossal > and ongoing scandal finally got cleaned up, and isn't it already well > past time for the full facts to be revealed and disclosed, at least to > the dues-paying members? I am happy to add my voice to yours, while expressing my disgust as to how a colleague has been treated, without any justification. Regards Mike > > Or should things just continue to go on they way they have been, with > AFRINIC still crooked and still a worldwide object of scorn and ridicule? > > It's your RiR and your choice. The members can just continue to turn a > blind eye to all of this, but you cannot now do so without without knowing, > for certain, that MANY facts and answers are being deliberately hidden. > > > Regards, > rfg > > _______________________________________________ > Community-Discuss mailing list > Community-Discuss@afrinic.net > https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss _______________________________________________ Community-Discuss mailing list Community-Discuss@afrinic.net https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss
