Noah, you have spoken well.

On Fri, 30 Oct 2020, 19:01 Noah, <n...@neo.co.tz> wrote:

> Elad
>
> The Code of Conduct is there to stop such defamation. Since its been
> invoked, its a call to both you and Roland to calm down.
>
> The reasons I am calling your back and forth exchange crap is because am
> on other lists where I have seen you both go on each other just like you
> were attempting to do here and its not new to some of us.
>
> Let us have a civilized discourse for we are a polite community.
>
> That is all am saying.
>
> Noah
>
> On Fri, 30 Oct 2020, 20:47 Elad Cohen, <e...@netstyle.io> wrote:
>
>> Noah,
>>
>> All I'm doing is to respond to an organized defamation campaign against
>> me.
>>
>> I take it as an offence when you reference my response as "crap" after my
>> blood was spilled here in community-discuss mailing list for almost a year,
>> without you raising your voice when my blood was spilled here for such long
>> time. To the point that I needed to start a legal case against AfriNIC
>> because my blood was spilled here.
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>> Elad
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* Noah <n...@neo.co.tz>
>> *Sent:* Friday, October 30, 2020 7:36 PM
>> *To:* Ali Hussein <a...@hussein.me.ke>
>> *Cc:* General Discussions of AFRINIC <community-discuss@afrinic.net>;
>> AFRINIC Communication <co...@afrinic.net>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Community-Discuss] Notice to all the legacy netblocks
>> holders in AfriNIC
>>
>> Ali
>>
>> This two have been going on each other for a while now and for those on
>> other lists like NANOG etc we have read enough of their crap esp when they
>> go personal and its just that we didnt expect to see the same crap on the
>> AFRINIC lists.
>>
>> So its good that AFRINIC invoked the CoC which can come in handy.
>>
>> Better they stick to issues if they both want further engagement with
>> this polite and hospitable community.
>>
>> Noah
>>
>> On Fri, 30 Oct 2020, 15:58 Ali Hussein, <a...@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
>>
>> Great to see Afrinic finally taking action to curb this behavior.
>>
>> *Ali Hussein*
>> *Digital Transformation *
>>
>> +254 0713 601113
>>
>> Twitter: @AliHKassim
>>
>> Skype: abu-jomo
>>
>> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
>>
>> "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act but a
>> habit."  ~ Aristotle
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On 30 Oct 2020, at 2:33 PM, AFRINIC Communication <co...@afrinic.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Dear Mr Cohen,
>>
>> AFRINIC in its role to enforce the code of conduct on the community
>> mailing list is issuing you your first written warning for the offensive
>> behavior displayed against another member of the community list, namely Mr.
>> Ronlad F. Guilmette on the thread titled “Notice to all the legacy
>> netblocks holders in AfriNIC”
>>
>>
>> https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/community-discuss/2020-October/003713.html
>>
>> https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/community-discuss/2020-October/003715.html
>>
>> https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/community-discuss/2020-October/003718.html
>>
>> You went on to continue with such behaviour after the AFRINIC
>> communications team reminded the list of the code of conduct by sending out
>> the following email
>>
>>
>> https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/community-discuss/2020-October/003723.html
>>
>> In light of above, your behaviour has been deemed as offensive,
>> discriminatory, and intimidating as it included personal attacks.This is in
>> direct violation with Sections II and III of AFRINIC’s Code of Conduct.
>> https://afrinic.net/code
>>
>> You are hereby reminded to abide by the AFRINIC Code of Conduct  when
>> interacting with the AFRINIC community at all times.
>>
>> For more information please refer to the following blog.
>> https://afrinic.net/20200903-code-of-conduct
>>
>> Please refrain from acting inappropriately on AFRINIC mailing lists again.
>>
>> AFRINIC Communications Team
>>
>> …………………………………………………………
>>
>> Cher Monsieur Cohen,
>>
>> AFRINIC dans le cadre de son action pour faire respecter le code de
>> conduite sur la liste de diffusion communautaire vous adresse un premier
>> avertissement écrit pour le comportement offensant  à l'encontre d'un autre
>> membre de la liste communautaire, à savoir M. Ronlad F. Guilmette sur le
>> fil intitulé "Notice to all the legacy netblocks holders in AfriNIC".
>>
>>
>> https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/community-discuss/2020-October/003713.html
>>
>> https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/community-discuss/2020-October/003715.html
>>
>> https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/community-discuss/2020-October/003718.html
>>
>> Vous avez continué avec ce comportement même après que l'équipe de
>> communication AFRINIC ait fait un rappel sur le code de conduite en
>> envoyant le courriel suivant:
>>
>>
>> https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/community-discuss/2020-October/003723.html
>>
>> À la lumière de ce qui précède, votre comportement a été perçu comme
>> étant  offensant, discriminatoire et intimidant car il inclut des attaques
>> personnelles. Ceci est en violation directe avec les sections II et III du
>> code de conduite de l'AFRINIC : https://afrinic.net/code
>>
>> Il vous est rappelé de respecter le code de conduite AFRINIC  lorsque
>> vous interagissez avec la communauté AFRINIC à tout moment.
>>
>> Pour plus d'informations, veuillez vous référer au blog suivant.
>> https://afrinic.net/20200903-code-of-conduct
>>
>> Veuillez vous abstenir d'agir à nouveau de manière inappropriée sur les
>> listes de diffusion AFRINIC.
>>
>> L’Equipe de Communications d’AFRINIC
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 27 Oct 2020, at 17:57, Elad Cohen <e...@netstyle.io> wrote:
>>
>> "I have other things to attend to." - like cleaning pores?
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* Ronald F. Guilmette <r...@tristatelogic.com>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 27, 2020 3:03 PM
>> *To:* community-discuss@afrinic.net <community-discuss@afrinic.net>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Community-Discuss] Notice to all the legacy netblocks
>> holders in AfriNIC
>>
>> In message <995eca50-e1da-49ea-acc0-54eda4091...@afrinic.net>,
>> AFRINIC Communication <co...@afrinic.net> wrote:
>>
>> >The Regional Internet Registry (RIR) system is a successful model of
>> >industry self-regulation...
>>
>> I would be happy to debate the truth or falsehood of that proposition
>> with you at some appropriate moment.  (Not just now.  I have other
>> things to attend to.)
>>
>> It is likely true that the RIR system has served, like the Pax Americana
>> of the late 20th century and the Pax Romana before it, to prevent all-out
>> violent confrontations between otherwise opposing factions.  But this
>> is not the only possible definition of the word "successful", and there
>> have been glaring and evident problems... in the AFRINIC region, in the
>> ARIN region, in the RIPE region, and elsewhere.  To simply and
>> unilaterally
>> declare that "This model of governance is good.  End of discusssion." is
>> not entirely persuasive in the present context.
>>
>> And although the industry may view this model as having been fantastically
>> successful at keeping various governments largely or entirely at bay and
>> largely or entirely out of the Internet regulation business (which even
>> I would agree is a profoundly Good Thing) the industry, such as it is,
>> is going to have to come to terms someday with that fact that secrecy
>> and the shrouding of every detail underneath a gigantic blanket of
>> NDAs neither promotes good governance nor is compatible with the ever
>> increasing dependency of society as a whole on this utility we call the
>> Internet, a utility whose underlying business arrangement have, by design,
>> been keep almost entirely opaque to the outside world.
>>
>> The present pandemic has only increased the dependency of society on the
>> Internet, and thus it has also increased the need for more transparency
>> into these private business arragements, in the public interest.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> rfg
>>
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