> From: Stefano Mazzocchi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 01 December 2002 22:49
>> Sander Striker wrote: >> Right now the homepages aren't linked to from anywhere and certainly >> not promoted. Creating the dns entry will seem like promoting the use >> of the homepages. > > Yes, that's exactly the intention. > >> "people".apache.org or "community".apache.org will imply that such a domain >> entails all the people of the ASF or the entire community of the ASF. > > It's damn easy to create a list of all committers and provide links only > for those who happen to have their ASF homepage available. That solves > 'in/out' problems. > >> This simply can never be true since not everyone has time to create and >> maintain >> a 'community' area in his homepage area. > > It's up to you to partecipate in this, but I don't see why the fact that > you don't have time should limit others in their ability to be more > community friendly. I'm not saying that. >> Some of us barely have spare time >> and are likely to contribute to their projects rather than maintain their >> 'community' area. > > Fair, then don't do so. My point is that quite a number of people won't have the time (or inclination) to do so. And because they don't, they aren't listed*. >> So, in the end, only the people with lots of time on >> their hands, or simply the most vocal ones, will (likely) be perceived (by >> visitors of community.apache.org) to _be_ the ASF, instead of a few faces >> within the ASF. > > pfff, if I lack the time to partecipate in a mail list discussion should > I propose to shut the mail list off until I have enough time? Bah, I'm quite sure you got my point. Currently the list (auto created) on Kens page holds about 40 committers. How many committers do we have in total? Somewhere between 550 and 600. 40 isn't exactly an accurate representation of our community, is it? >> I'm moving my -0 to a -1 on this basis. It would be something else if >> community.apache.org were only accessible by committers... > > Sander: since the ASF was created, this page > > http://www.apache.org/foundation/members.html > > contains the list of all members and not all of them have the > time/will/energy/whatever to maintain an ASF-related homepage (I'm one > of them, BTW). > > Nobody ever said that those linked ones receive more attention than the > others. I hope you are not implying this. I'm not. I'm just saying that on the members page _all_ members are listed. > I agree with you that ASF 'visibility' should not be a function of > whether or not you have a homepage setup. Exactly. > So, just like you don't stop discussions if you don't have time, but you > still receive messages, I would suggest that we list *all* committers, > but then we link only those who do have an ASF-related homepage setup. > > Does that remove your fears? Some of them. I feel others have voiced things in line with my views so I'm not going to duplicate that. Sander *) This is addressed in the last paragraph of this mail and in my reply to Sam.
