-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Stephen McConnell wrote: >> >> Once again, there was no technical breach of procedure. Of custom, >> perhaps, but not of procedure. This is another dead horse that >> should stop getting beaten. > > A set of polices and procedures were established and these procedures > governing the decision making processes within the Avalon PMC. These > policies established rules concerning discussion, voting, and reporting. > Unfortunately Aaron decided that he was above these rules, a notion > supported by the Chairman and a number of the members of the board.
No policy adopted by a project can supercede the policies of the ASF. Any that do are null and void, or, at best, advisory only. > There is absolute indisputable evidence of Aaron disregard for these > procedures and the opinion of the PMC. Lets' not even argue about that. I believe there may have been disagreement between Aaron and some members of the PMC. Certainly not a majority, in which case the statement 'Aaron disregarded the opinion of the PMC' is just a handwave. If the entire PMC wanted a different approach taken, or even a majority did, then perhaps your assertion migh be consodered to have some validity. In addition, 'disregard' means 'ignore' -- which is not the same as 'considering but not choosing to accept.' So I *do* dispute your claims. 'Let's not argue' ? Then let's stop asserting controversial positions and saying they're fact and not worth arguing about. > Instead I would suggest you think about the impact of these actions on > the PMC members and the community. The breakdown in trust underpins the > subject of this thread and every single person subscribed to this list > is better off for knowing that. So instead of defending the ASF - how > about thinking about strengthening what you have by at least listening > and perhaps suggesting ways in which we can prevent this in the future. If I believed there was something improper here that should be prevented in the future, aye. Since I don't, then defending the ASF, and the positions taken which I consider correct and valid, is certainly preferable to *not* defending them and letting assertions I consider rubbish to prevail unchallenged and by default. - -- #ken P-)} Ken Coar, Sanagendamgagwedweinini http://Ken.Coar.Org/ Author, developer, opinionist http://Apache-Server.Com/ "Millennium hand and shrimp!" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQCVAwUBQcglvprNPMCpn3XdAQHibQP/fqSwoVRXcgcOVotP2nprlHd/TPbenhop hcJTFA1I/wzQxsNHpYCfeugzcQsLfBLNwGxl3g4iiFOUMb+me+kuRbJyy12ej7Nd eeBKcaBAW8JiOaMlSGaJPWsrRFlu8X/iEolaVMk6lrs7N8nB2eyrDnuaeR90RUGi fpq3v8j171c= =Hkmc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
