True but the complaints were very few and were only in the beginning of our testing, we have improved the Gauntlet filter to target messages that look like pre-tested spam, to reduce delaying good email. Yes it does delay some good mail but the overall trade-off has been worth it. We have been running the proto-type on 2 servers with over 1000 domains for 30 days + and only had a handful of complaints when we started. Also remember whitelisted email in SM or Declude is not delayed by the Gauntlet. As we know Greylisting also delays messages, and is not a solution for everyone, but it certainly is a solution for many mail admins.

Bottom line is the delay and targeting of messages for the Gauntlet can be controlled.

David

we have improved the filter so it only delays suspect messages and not all messages
On 10/31/2014 12:25 AM, Linda Pagillo wrote:

Thanks for the kind words, Mike. Yes, unfortunately, that is the only complaint we have had about the Gauntlet... the delay.

Linda Pagillo
Mail's Best Friend
Email: linda.pagi...@mailsbestfriend.com
Web: www.mailsbestfriend.com
Office: 703.988.3605 x7016

MBF

*From:*community@mailsbestfriend.com [mailto:community@mailsbestfriend.com] *On Behalf Of *Michael Cummins
*Sent:* Thursday, October 30, 2014 10:18 PM
*To:* community@mailsbestfriend.com
*Subject:* [MBF] Re: Thoughts on how to deal with the current SPAM campaigns

Linda and David are great.  Worth every penny, always.

I'd be interested in The Gauntlet, but my customers wouldn't tolerate that kind of delay at all. Sadly.

- Michael Cummins

*From:*community@mailsbestfriend.com <mailto:community@mailsbestfriend.com> [mailto:community@mailsbestfriend.com] *On Behalf Of *Linda Pagillo
*Sent:* Thursday, October 30, 2014 11:05 PM
*To:* community@mailsbestfriend.com <mailto:community@mailsbestfriend.com>
*Subject:* [MBF] Re: Thoughts on how to deal with the current SPAM campaigns

Carl, my email address is linda.pagi...@mailsbestfriend.com <mailto:linda.pagi...@mailsbestfriend.com>. Thanks for the kind words, Chris!

Linda Pagillo
Mail's Best Friend
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Office: 703.988.3605 x7016

MBF

*From:*community@mailsbestfriend.com <mailto:community@mailsbestfriend.com> [mailto:community@mailsbestfriend.com] *On Behalf Of *Carl Wagar
*Sent:* Thursday, October 30, 2014 6:49 PM
*To:* community@mailsbestfriend.com <mailto:community@mailsbestfriend.com>
*Subject:* [MBF] Re: Thoughts on how to deal with the current SPAM campaigns

What's your email address these days Linda?

I am interested...

J. Carl Wagar

EntreNet Communications Inc
www.entrenet.com <http://www.entrenet.com> www.thehostingservice.com <http://www.thehostingservice.com>

24 Swain Ave, Ottawa, ON, K1G 4T1, Canada

Email: jcwa...@entrenet.com <mailto:jcwa...@entrenet.com>, skype: jcwagar

Tel: +1 613-737-7327, Fax: +1 613-737-5801

Cel: +1 613-818-8898

*From:*community@mailsbestfriend.com <mailto:community@mailsbestfriend.com> [mailto:community@mailsbestfriend.com] *On Behalf Of *Linda Pagillo
*Sent:* Thursday, October 30, 2014 3:18 PM
*To:* community@mailsbestfriend.com <mailto:community@mailsbestfriend.com>
*Subject:* [MBF] Re: Thoughts on how to deal with the current SPAM campaigns

Hello everyone. I wanted to chime in here. We (MBF) actually have a utility for implementing exactly what Scott is proposing if anyone is interested in trying it. We call it The Gauntlet. Also, the following link has some additional information about how a program such as this works: http://www.lifeatwarp9.com/2012/06/gauntlet-a-solution-to-pre-tested-spam/. Please let me know if you have any questions about it.

Linda Pagillo
Mail's Best Friend
Email: linda.pagi...@mailsbestfriend.com <mailto:linda.pagi...@mailsbestfriend.com>
Web: www.mailsbestfriend.com <http://www.mailsbestfriend.com>
Office: 703.988.3605 x7016

MBF

*From:*community@mailsbestfriend.com <mailto:community@mailsbestfriend.com> [mailto:community@mailsbestfriend.com] *On Behalf Of *Scott Fosseen - Prairie Lakes AEA
*Sent:* Thursday, October 30, 2014 1:11 PM
*To:* community@mailsbestfriend.com <mailto:community@mailsbestfriend.com>
*Subject:* [MBF] Thoughts on how to deal with the current SPAM campaigns

Here is a thought I have that may be effective on these zero-day SPAM campaigns. It does have a big drawback, but the users may be OK with it if it stops the SPAM.

Here is my idea. I am going to say this is from my standpoint of using SmarterMail.

The basic idea is to process each message through declude twice. Any message that declude did not whitelist or delete would be sent to a hold queue folder and after a set amount of time declude would rescan the message.

The first time through declude the message would process and drop out of declude only if whitelisted, or deleted. The message would also be counted by reputation tests such as barracuda. Once the message is processed it would be put in a hold queue where it would set for a set amount of time (Say 30 min). The delay would give a chance for tests to identify SPAM campaigns. After the Queue delay has passed Declude will process the message again and take the normal action to the message when complete.

Thoughts?

SPAM Tests


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