Hello Chris, thanks for the shoutout.

Yes, I still sell AutoWhite for Declude and yes it will work with Smartermail 
but though a manual registry trick. It is not suitable for ISPs or enviornments 
with a large number of mailboxes or with a lot of turnover in mailboxes.

-----Original Message-----
From: "Christopher Jaime" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2014 12:55pm
To: [email protected]
Subject: [MBF] Re: Thoughts on how to deal with the current SPAM campaigns

Seems like a tool like autowhite.exe would be a good solution for 
mitigating the delay.  Autowhite.exe would know if the recipient has 
previously sent email to the sender and this condition could be used to 
skip the hold (though I've not used autowhite.exe on SmarterMail).

TESTSFAILED    END    CONTAINS    AUTOWHITE1

John T, does autowhite.exe work with SmarterMail and do you still sell 
licenses for autowhite.exe?

I too would appreciate Gauntlet for iMail.

- Chris


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On 10/30/2014 10:20 PM, David Barker wrote:
> True but the complaints were very few and were only in the beginning 
> of our testing, we have improved the Gauntlet filter to target 
> messages that look like pre-tested spam, to reduce delaying good 
> email. Yes it does delay some good mail but the overall trade-off has 
> been worth it. We have been running the proto-type on 2 servers with 
> over 1000 domains for 30 days + and only had a handful of complaints 
> when we started.  Also remember whitelisted email in SM or Declude is 
> not delayed by the Gauntlet.  As we know Greylisting also delays 
> messages, and is not a solution for everyone, but it certainly is a 
> solution for many mail admins.
>
> Bottom line is the delay and targeting of messages for the Gauntlet 
> can be controlled.
>
> David
>
>  we have improved the filter so it only delays suspect messages and 
> not all messages
> On 10/31/2014 12:25 AM, Linda Pagillo wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for the kind words, Mike. Yes, unfortunately, that is the only 
>> complaint we have had about the Gauntlet... the delay.
>>
>> Linda Pagillo
>> Mail's Best Friend
>> Email: [email protected]
>> Web: www.mailsbestfriend.com
>> Office: 703.988.3605 x7016
>>
>> MBF
>>
>> *From:*[email protected] 
>> [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Michael Cummins
>> *Sent:* Thursday, October 30, 2014 10:18 PM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* [MBF] Re: Thoughts on how to deal with the current SPAM 
>> campaigns
>>
>> Linda and David are great.  Worth every penny, always.
>>
>> I'd be interested in The Gauntlet, but my customers wouldn't tolerate 
>> that kind of delay at all.   Sadly.
>>
>> - Michael Cummins
>>
>> *From:*[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]> 
>> [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Linda Pagillo
>> *Sent:* Thursday, October 30, 2014 11:05 PM
>> *To:* [email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>
>> *Subject:* [MBF] Re: Thoughts on how to deal with the current SPAM 
>> campaigns
>>
>> Carl, my email address is [email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>. Thanks for the kind 
>> words, Chris!
>>
>> Linda Pagillo
>> Mail's Best Friend
>> Email: [email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>
>> Web: www.mailsbestfriend.com <http://www.mailsbestfriend.com>
>> Office: 703.988.3605 x7016
>>
>> MBF
>>
>> *From:*[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]> 
>> [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Carl Wagar
>> *Sent:* Thursday, October 30, 2014 6:49 PM
>> *To:* [email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>
>> *Subject:* [MBF] Re: Thoughts on how to deal with the current SPAM 
>> campaigns
>>
>> What's your email address these days Linda?
>>
>> I am interested...
>>
>> J. Carl Wagar
>>
>> EntreNet Communications Inc
>> www.entrenet.com <http://www.entrenet.com> www.thehostingservice.com 
>> <http://www.thehostingservice.com>
>>
>> 24 Swain Ave, Ottawa, ON, K1G 4T1, Canada
>>
>> Email: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>, skype: jcwagar
>>
>> Tel: +1 613-737-7327, Fax: +1 613-737-5801
>>
>> Cel: +1 613-818-8898
>>
>> *From:*[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]> 
>> [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Linda Pagillo
>> *Sent:* Thursday, October 30, 2014 3:18 PM
>> *To:* [email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>
>> *Subject:* [MBF] Re: Thoughts on how to deal with the current SPAM 
>> campaigns
>>
>> Hello everyone. I wanted to chime in here. We (MBF) actually have a 
>> utility for implementing exactly what Scott is proposing if anyone is 
>> interested in trying it. We call it The Gauntlet. Also, the following 
>> link has some additional information about how a program such as this 
>> works: 
>> http://www.lifeatwarp9.com/2012/06/gauntlet-a-solution-to-pre-tested-spam/. 
>> Please let me know if you have any questions about it.
>>
>> Linda Pagillo
>> Mail's Best Friend
>> Email: [email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>
>> Web: www.mailsbestfriend.com <http://www.mailsbestfriend.com>
>> Office: 703.988.3605 x7016
>>
>> MBF
>>
>> *From:*[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]> 
>> [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Scott Fosseen - 
>> Prairie Lakes AEA
>> *Sent:* Thursday, October 30, 2014 1:11 PM
>> *To:* [email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>
>> *Subject:* [MBF] Thoughts on how to deal with the current SPAM campaigns
>>
>> Here is a thought I have that may be effective on these zero-day SPAM 
>> campaigns.  It does have a big drawback, but the users may be OK with 
>> it if it stops the SPAM.
>>
>> Here is my idea.  I am going to say this is from my standpoint of 
>> using SmarterMail.
>>
>> The basic idea is to process each message through declude twice.  Any 
>> message that declude did not whitelist or delete would be sent to a 
>> hold queue folder and after a set amount of time declude would rescan 
>> the message.
>>
>> The first time through declude the message would process and drop out 
>> of declude only if whitelisted, or deleted.  The message would also 
>> be counted by reputation tests such as barracuda.  Once the message 
>> is processed it would be put in a hold queue where it would set for a 
>> set amount of time (Say 30 min).  The delay would give a chance for 
>> tests to identify SPAM campaigns.  After the Queue delay has passed 
>> Declude will process the message again and take the normal action to 
>> the message when complete.
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>> SPAM Tests
>>
>
> -- 
> David Barker
> Mail's Best Friend
> Email     :[email protected]
> Web      :www.mailsbestfriend.com
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