Are you using the GOOD-REVDNS filter ?
I would disagree with your statement "yes it can be spoofed but no one
cares about that" this in fact would cause a huge influx of spam. How
many of your customers whitelist paypal.com or amazon.com or even their
own domains ? You would be opening the door to spammers..
You could create your own filter if you really are adamant about it,
that would whitelist the from address here is how to do it:
HEADERS WHITELIST PCRE (?im:From:.+@example.com)
Rather than add lines to the PRE-TESTED filter, can you send me a header
of the message that failed so I can make the appropriate changes?
David
On 1/3/2015 8:57 PM, Carl Wagar wrote:
All I know is that the PRE-TESTED filter thinks a Thrifty is a spammer
coming from this 3^rd party mailer.
I am concerned, any firm that uses a 3^rd party mailer deserves
unreliability.
But my customers have no clue.
It would still be nice if /some/ kind of whitelisting was available
based on stated FROM address.
(yes it can be spoofed but no one cares about /that/). They just want
to whitelist based
on the address it is showing in their mailbox!
I need some sort of ‘WHITELIST FROMHEADERS @thrifty.com’ option that
uses the FROM address
in the header.
and WHITELISTFROMHEADERSFILE ’ to have a file of these.
In the meantime I have to add something the following to the
pre-tested filter:
HEADERS -200 PCRE (?:Thrifty Car Rental)
HEADERS -200 PCRE (?:thrifty.com)
My life is a constant noise of responding to these anomalies.
I can forsee that within a year or two I will have to abandon all this
and move
everyone to godaddy, google-apps, Microsoft-exchange-online or whatever.
Everyone /assumes/ they are perfect.
Better yet, I would like someone to go back in time and have a chat
with SpamFord Wallace
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanford_Wallace
Carl
J. Carl Wagar
EntreNet Communications Inc
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*From:*community@mailsbestfriend.com
[mailto:community@mailsbestfriend.com] *On Behalf Of *David Barker
*Sent:* Saturday, January 3, 2015 8:36 PM
*To:* community@mailsbestfriend.com
*Subject:* [MBF] Re: whitelist FROM address
Hi Carl,
The sender is easily forged, this is why Declude specifically looks at
the sender in the envelope and not the FROM line, this is by design.
The PRE-TESTED filter was/is a temporary fix for the pre-tested spam,
if you are using it in conjunction with the GOOD-REVDNS you would not
be facing these issues as the PRE-TESTED filter would end on
legitimate 3rd party mailers (The 3rd party mailers like constant
contact are legitimate email senders they are not spam, also their
unsubscribe links do work.) Another option you have is to use the
gauntlet
http://mailsbestfriend.com/downloads/docs/Gauntlet_2.0_Instructions.pdf
A third option, as you are in Canada you may want to look at Opt Out
From Online Behavioural Advertising http://youradchoices.ca/choices
Hope this starts you in the right direction. This is an issue that can
be resolved. Let us know if you need further help.
David Barker
Mail’s Best Friend
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On 1/3/2015 6:48 PM, Carl Wagar wrote:
Hi. I have an ongoing problem…
Declude-Sender screws up whitelisting.
*Is there any way we can have the whitelists use the FROM address
and NOT just the Declude-Sender?*
**
Whitelisting doesn’t work much of the time because increasingly,
firms are using mailing list
services instead of their own mail servers. Everyone thinks it’s
a great idea to use
constant-contact, mailchimp etc, to send their ‘legitimate’
broadcasts.
The same services used to send mail people /don’t/ want.
**
For example.
Why on earth Declude-Sender be @envfrm.rsys2.com for
Thrifty Rental Car reservations when they could use their own
servers @thrifty.com.
Stupid idea. As a result,
*the PRE-TESTED filter was filtering out people’s rental-car
reservations!*
//
The fact that everyone now wants to /send/ marketing /to everyone/
but /never /wants to
/get/marketing /from anyone/, /except /the marketing /they do want
to get/ but
but which /no one else wants to get/: is driving me insane.
Comments?
Carl
J. Carl Wagar
EntreNet Communications Inc
www.entrenet.com <http://www.entrenet.com>
www.thehostingservice.com <http://www.thehostingservice.com>
24 Swain Ave, Ottawa, ON, K1G 4T1, Canada
Email: jcwa...@entrenet.com <mailto:jcwa...@entrenet.com>, skype:
jcwagar
Tel: +1 613-737-7327, Fax: +1 613-737-5801
Cel: +1 613-818-8898
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