On 4/13/05, Darren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > :) funny, I never found dos anything but laughable, I battle on with > some flavor of nix which is more like the cli/shell but then thats what > amigaOS was supposed to be.
DOS? Not a brilliant CLI but in many ways quite an elegant hybrid of Unix, CP/M and VAX-VMS. By the days of DR-DOS 5 and MS-DOS 6, I found it really powerful and flexible. I really liked it. > >For free, with built-in tools? > > > > > Aminet [Shakes head] No, doesn't count. The ability to go and download stuff and do it /if/ you know what to use and how to use it does not count as a "customisable GUI". Almost anything, from System 6 to WinXP, can be tweaked that way, but you have to really know what you're doing. Customisable means in the box, built in. > :) VM was slow at best on older boxes, I guess there was a bright side > in that was tight and efficient code was made for a short time unlike now. Not always. SCO Xenix and OS/2 did it elegantly and well on 286s. It's a question of how you do it. It was pleasant that in classic MacOS you could turn it on and off at will, but if it worked properly, you would never have wanted to turn it off. > >Also, the lack of VM and management crippled AmigaOS's later > >development - even today in OS 4.0. > > > > > Not the only problem, Amiga has been dead for years, they should give it > up as most of their target customer base has. Well, yes. > There are third party VM programs, all very fussy none remain installed, > yet the mac emulator has no problem if the cpu is right, no (e) I have to say I'm finding your writing rather hard to follow. It would really help if you could take a bit more time over punctuation and so on. What does this mean? > >Today, yes. :�) But there was no want or need. A hard disk makes more sense. > > > > > Today yes. You want to dig up a price comparision for yesterday, my > first 40mb hdd and ram exp cost an arm and leg and worth every cent > before that floppies worked fine. Hard to go back to now. Sure, it was expensive, but really, the point was that the OS was pretty much unusable without a hard disk. I know, I used it. It worked but it wasn't pleasant. So the cheap price of the Amiga was illusory: to get it to shine, you needed to spend a lot more than the basic system price. Yes, an Amiga could do all the cool multitasking and so on running from floppies, but so could a PC if you had the patience of a rock. It's not such a big deal. > The author was/is a list member, I had hoped he would try his hand at > mac68000. > I've got one for the Apple ][ somewhere. OIC. > Kewl, my 030/50 phase IV cost my remaining arm and leg, plugs into the > lan via a old pcmcia network card. No scsi - hard to find down here I do > have the ide buffer board which helps The 1200 has internal IDE, tho'. I have a 400MB notebook HD attached to mine. > >Not on System 6. I had MacOS 7.6.1 online on it /years/ ago; that's /easy!/ > > > > > My mistake, I thought the trouble was with 7. I think maybe you should spend a little more time /reading/ the messages as well, then. :�) > >>For appletalk on BetaX try sheepsaver or BII as opposed to booting from > >>classic mode. Still don't understand that bit. > >>I can use google with Macweb on a Classic the result page > >>will end the surfing session though > >> > >> > >Oh? Doesn't work for me. Just an error message about client-side redirection. > > > > > And I run macweb on sys7 which may explain it. OIC. Could be. > >>Ignored not forgotten, WinUEA, there is a mac port around, just one of a > >>multitude of emulators to play with. > >> > >> > >WinUAE. UEA is the University of East Anglia. I know - got it, played > >with it, years ago, before I had a real Miggy. > > > >But it is ignored, inasmuch as the lessons of these earlier machines > >were not learned and the PC design is only slowly and painfully > >incorporating some of them even today. > > > > > :) do we call that progress, I think we do. Speak for yourself! > >Oh, I know, but MacTCP does the job. Also, the sites are unanimous > >that OT is really slow on '030 machines and in low memory. The Classic > >II is both. > > > > > Which is why I dont install it nor recommend it but it does have > advantages that need to be pointed out. Um. To put it politely, I think you're assuming that I know rather less about this than I actually do... > Our first ppc had both installed I'm fairly sure it was called Network > and lived in the apple extras folder. Hmm. I've disabled OT using Extension Manager, copied in MacTCP and it works, significantly quicker, too, on downloading files - but I still have no Network control panel and my Appletalk CP now doesn't work 'cos OT isn't loaded. > Found this interesting, someone here probably contributed. ;) It may be > useful > http://www.cs.uu.nl/wais/html/na-dir/motorola/68k-chips-faq.html Er, yes. 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