The building of special UCT tree for each pair of black/white groups
presented in the current position can take place on separate computer
within the cluster, so this way of semeai detection allows good
parallelization


On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 9:43 PM, Alexander Kozlovsky <
alexander.kozlov...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm curious, is it possible to deal with semeai the next way: during MC
> simulation,
> record statistics for each pair of (black_group, white_group) which
> presented
> on the board in the current position. The statistics for each pair of
> groups
> have four counter: both groups died, both groups survived, only white
> survived,
> only black survived. If in the most simulations only one of two groups
> survived,
> then it is probably semeai, and then it is worth to play some amount of MC
> simulations (in separate UCT tree) where final position evaluated not by
> total
> score, but purely by live/death status of this two groups. This way it may
> be
> possible to detect, if this is real semeai, or one of this groups can live
> unconditionally.
>
> Has someone tried something like this?
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 3:41 PM, Stefan Kaitschick <
> stefan.kaitsch...@hamburg.de> wrote:
>
>> One more thought: it's especially important to detect genuinely local
>> semeais. Because they're the ones that are hurting the bots.
>> Ironically, bots are happy with strange and convoluted interactions
>> that make it extremely difficult for humans. The reason is, that
>> humans are so good at isolating problems. So positions that are easy
>> for humans make bots look bad. We perceive their behaviour in such
>> positions as thrashing, going through useless permutions that gobble
>> up even the greatest computing power.
>>
>> Stefan
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 3:07 PM, Álvaro Begué <alvaro.be...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
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>> > Álvaro.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thursday, October 10, 2013, Petri Pitkanen wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Thats why Gmail has filters and you can prevent gmail classifying as
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>> >>
>> >> Petri
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>> >> 2013/10/9 Aja Huang <ajahu...@gmail.com>
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