On Sep 9, 2009, at 12:33 PM, b_s-wilk wrote:
By expanding Medicare and returning to private nonprofits instead of taking customers' premiums for shareholders, the costs of both Medicare and private health care will go down, as it has in many other countries with similar plans. Medicare costs and premiums will go down--"lurching" downward--when the pool is increased to include younger healthier people instead of only people over the age of 65.

Amen. There are so many good examples to emulate. They all have much lower costs and offer much better outcomes. Those people love their health plans.

But the wingnuts comb through the millions of people served by those health systems to find the 1 in a 1000000 examples where something went wrong and then try to convince us that this is how those systems work all the time. And when that fails they just out and out lie to us. Don't forget "Stephen Hawking likes his "Death Panel" Health Care just fine ..." http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/blogs/erica/2009/08/stephen-hawking-likes-his-deat.php


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