On Wed, 16 Jul 2014, Adam Williamson wrote:

>> Okay, so after reading about this device, it sounds like it is similar to
>> the Link, which we support.  But after reading the manual, I'm not sure
>> the USB port is even used for anything?  It looks like everything is done
>> via WiFi (and I'm assuming also Bluetooth because otherwise I'm not sure
>> how it tells the Hub what your WiFi settings are).
>
> It can be programmed both via wifi and via the USB with the MyHarmony
> software; both methods work. You have to start out by using the
> MyHarmony software if your wifi isn't open.

Hmm.  Yeah, that sounds pretty much like the Link.  Basically, all we do 
with the Link (Concordance working with MHGUI) is configure the WiFi 
settings on the device and set the room name.  Then all the syncing is 
done via WiFi.

>> What does lsusb show for the VID/PID?  If it does speak USB at all, it
>> probably talks the MH protocol.
>>
>> In any event, you should be able to use MHGUI for configuration (instead
>> of the Silverlight app or the new desktop application).  There might be
>> additional settings that I may have to add, but I would think the basic
>> stuff should work.
>
> Yeah, it seems to. So I don't really need to be able to program the
> remote via concordance (I can just configure settings via mhgui and then
> initiate a sync from the smartphone app), but I guess it'd still be nice
> for concordance to have the capability for those who want it. I'll try
> to get you the USB IDs later (right now it's busy controllin' stuff :>)

In theory, if it shares the same architecture as the Link, we should be 
able to just add the VID/PID and it might Just Work(tm) at least for WiFi 
configuration.  If it does support synching of the actual configuration 
via USB, we'd need to figure out how it does that.  Unfortunately, it 
probably does something similar to the Harmony Touch (where the host 
computer sort of acts like a web proxy over USB), which I'm still 
struggling to get working 100%.

> As I understand the current Harmony range, there's basically the Hub
> (which you can buy alone as "Harmony Ultimate Hub", the very basic
> hardware remote that comes in the "Smart Control" package (hub + basic
> remote), the 'advanced' remote which you can buy alone ("Harmony
> Ultimate One") or with the hub as the "Harmony Ultimate" package, and
> the smartphone apps which obviously work by talking to the hub via wifi.
>
> The basic remote has no IR transmitter, it can only work via the hub
> (which I presume it talks to via RF). The 'ultimate' remote has its own
> IR transmitter; if you buy it on its own it's like an old-school
> Harmony, it transmits the signals itself and you have to plug it in to
> program it. Or you can use it with the hub, in which case it's just a
> 'remote client', like the basic Smart Control remote, or one of the
> smartphone apps. So there are really only three pieces of hardware in
> the 2013 range: the hub, the basic remote, and the advanced remote. (the
> 350 and 650 are older-type devices they're still selling in the budget
> end of the market).

Too many variations now for us to keep up with.  :-)

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