Seems reasonable; I'll revise the resolution accordingly and put it up
for a vote over the next couple of hours.

Thanks!
Karl

On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 5:16 AM, Jukka Zitting <jukka.zitt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 3:13 PM, Karl Wright <daddy...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Looks like we missed a step; we need a graduation resolution for the
>> board to vote on.  Here's my proposal, basically copied from Apache
>> Chemistry's, but I have a question. Since no distinction is made
>> between the PPMC members and committers in this resolution, and since
>> many of the original committers/IPMC members have become inactive, and
>> others have not yet been voted in as PPMC members, how should we deal
>> with that?
>
> * Overall the resolution looks good, though note my comment on the scope 
> below.
>
> * As discussed before, I don't think making a distinction between
> committers and (P)PMC members is useful for us. IMO such a setup only
> makes sense for "umbrella" projects like the Incubator and Lucene
> before it split out most of its subprojects. So my recommendation
> would be to make all (still active) committers also PMC members and
> stick with that policy going forward.
>
> * As for inactive people, you're already doing a good job asking them
> whether they still want to be involved. In case someone doesn't reply
> and hasn't shown up on the lists over the last year or so, it's fine
> to simply drop them from the resolution for lack of response.
>
>> Also, do we need to vote on who the vice president will
>> be?  I believe we do...  but maybe we can do this as part of the vote
>> on the resolution itself?
>
> You're already doing all the stuff a VP should be doing, and more, so
> I hereby nominate you to be the VP, Apache ManifoldCF. We can have a
> vote if other nominations are made, or consider you selected by lazy
> consensus otherwise.
>
>>        WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests
>>        of the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to
>>        establish a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and
>>        maintenance of open-source software providing a framework for 
>> transferring
>>        content from source content repositories to target repositories or 
>> indexes,
>>        including a security model permitting target repositories to enforce 
>> source
>>        repository security, for distribution at no charge to the public;
>
> This is a pretty lengthy scope definition. Can we simplify it a bit?
>
> For example something like: "... open-source software for transferring
> content between repositories or search indexes". The details of how
> this is achieved (framework, security model, etc.) are IMHO best left
> outside the scope to allow more freedom down the line for the project
> to evolve.
>
>>        RESOLVED, that the Apache ManifoldCF Project be and hereby is
>>        responsible for the creation and maintenance of software providing a
>>        framework for transferring content from source content repositories to
>>        target repositories or indexes, including a security model permitting 
>> target
>>        repositories to enforce source repository security, for distribution
>>        at no charge to the public.
>
> This should also be updated as discussed above.
>
> PS. If you don't mind, I'd be happy to stay on board the new
> ManifoldCF PMC at least for some time to help out with the transition
> to TLP.
>
> BR,
>
> Jukka Zitting

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