On 10/07/15 14:56, Tomasz Bursztyka wrote:
> Hi Slava,
>
>> All D-Bus calls (except for "Connect"
>> obviously) would work for unavailable service just as they do for
>> available services.
>>
>> The main use case is wifi. The user has to be able to see the list of
>> configured wifi networks, edit their properties, remove them etc. For
>> other types of services it probably doesn't make sense but who knows.
>
> Isn't it the same behavior as Jolla's phone has?


Not quite. The user gets to see the list of saved networks but their
properties are not editable (and not even available in the current UI
but that's purely a UI issue). That's why I asked this question.


> I still don't get the usefulness of that feature. Why annoying the
> user with
> service he cannot connect to, at a time T?
> (why would he feel the need to tweak the parameters if the network is
> not even present?!)
>

Two scenarios off the top of my head:

1. To see the password (if you have forgotten it) or proxy configuration
(to copy/paste it into the new configuration)
2. To set "Favourite" to false so that it doesn't get automatically
connected when it becomes available

And generally, if these properties are there and changing them doesn't
break anything, why not to provide access to them, especially if there's
mechanism already in place for it. connman is a piece of middleware, its
job is to provide the functionality and leave it to UI designers to
decide what to show, what not to show and how to present it to the user.

Regards,
-Slava


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