On 21 January 2013 14:01, Frank Karlitschek <
[email protected]> wrote:

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> On 21.01.2013, at 13:58, Melvin Carvalho <[email protected]> wrote:
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> >
> > On 21 January 2013 13:43, Frank Karlitschek <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > let's try to create a version 2 of the manifesto together. I created a
> draft 1 based on the feedback.
> > So What do you think?
> >
> >
> > Frank
> >
> >
> > --
> > User data manifesto V2 draft 1
> >
> > Changeslog:
> >
> > - Add a remark to 3. that it is recommended to have an own server for
> the personal data.
> > - Removed "open source" so that only "free software" is in point 8.
> > - Replaced "Invulnerability of data" with "Protect the data from loss"
> > - Replaced "own data" with "personal data"
> >
> > ----------------
> > 1. Control the personal data
> > The data that someone directly or indirectly creates belongs to the
> person who created it.
> >
> > 2. Know where the data is stored
> > Everybody should be able to know: where their personal data is
> physically stored, how long, on which server, in what country, and what
> laws apply.
> >
> > 3. Choose the storage location
> > Everybody should always be able to migrate their personal data to a
> different provider, server or their own machine at any time without being
> locked in to a specific vendor. It is recommended to have the personal
> server for the personal data in the long term.
> >
> > It strikes me that this implies that all your data will be stored on one
> provider.  In practice I may wish to store my social chit chat on one
> server, my photos on another and my financial transactions on another.
>  Would it be part of the manifesto to allow the user this level of
> granularity?
>
> Hmm. It wasn't the idea to imply that all the data has to be on one place.
> We should change the words if you think that this is the meaning of the
> sentences.
>

Oh good!

Everybody should always be able to migrate personal data to a different
provider, server, or their own machine, at any time without being locked in
to a specific vendor. It is recommended to have a personal server for
personal data in the long term.

^^ couple of minor changes -- see what you think


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> > 4. Control access
> > Everybody should be able to know, choose and control who has access to
> their personal data to see or modify it.
> >
> > 5. Choose the conditions
> > If someone chooses to share their personal data, then the user selects
> the sharing license and conditions.
> >
> > 6. Protect the data from loss
> > Everybody should be able to protect their personal data against
> surveillance and to federate their personal data for backups to prevent
> data loss or for any other reason.
> >
> > 7. Use it optimally
> > Everybody should be able to access and use their personal data at all
> times with any device they choose and in the most convenient and easiest
> way for them.
> >
> > 8. Server software transparency
> > Server software should be free software so that the source code of the
> software can be inspected to confirm that it works as specified.
> >
> >
> > --
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> > On 15.01.2013, at 17:03, Rich Hilliard <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > > if it allows rms to participate, I'm in favor.
> > >
> > > ________________________________________
> > > From: Frank Karlitschek [[email protected]]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 10:56 AM
> > > To: Rich Hilliard
> > > Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]
> > > Subject: Re: [GNU/consensus] [RFC][SH] User Data Manifesto
> > >
> > > O.K.
> > >
> > > Let's try to do it by email. I hope it's O.K. if we use this
> mailinglist :-)
> > >
> > > I will take the current text and merge all the discussed improvements
> in and send it to the list as first draft. Then we can iterate until we
> have something that works for everybody.
> > >
> > > I will send something probably tomorrow.
> > >
> > > I hope thats a good approach.
> > >
> > >
> > > Frank
> > >
> > > On 15.01.2013, at 16:34, "Rich Hilliard" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Email is fine with me; who has the current draft version?
> > >>
> > >> ________________________________________
> > >> Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2013 5:42 PM
> > >> To: Frank Karlitschek
> > >> Cc: [email protected]
> > >> Subject: Re: [GNU/consensus] [RFC][SH] User Data Manifesto
> > >>
> > >> I'd rather participate the way I have done thus far: by email.
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Dr Richard Stallman
> > >> President, Free Software Foundation
> > >> 51 Franklin St
> > >> Boston MA 02110
> > >> USA
> > >> www.fsf.org  www.gnu.org
> > >> Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software.
> > >> Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
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