On 21.01.2013, at 14:07, Melvin Carvalho <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > On 21 January 2013 14:01, Frank Karlitschek > <[email protected]> wrote: > > On 21.01.2013, at 13:58, Melvin Carvalho <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > On 21 January 2013 13:43, Frank Karlitschek > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi, > > > > let's try to create a version 2 of the manifesto together. I created a > > draft 1 based on the feedback. > > So What do you think? > > > > > > Frank > > > > > > -- > > User data manifesto V2 draft 1 > > > > Changeslog: > > > > - Add a remark to 3. that it is recommended to have an own server for the > > personal data. > > - Removed "open source" so that only "free software" is in point 8. > > - Replaced "Invulnerability of data" with "Protect the data from loss" > > - Replaced "own data" with "personal data" > > > > ---------------- > > 1. Control the personal data > > The data that someone directly or indirectly creates belongs to the person > > who created it. > > > > 2. Know where the data is stored > > Everybody should be able to know: where their personal data is physically > > stored, how long, on which server, in what country, and what laws apply. > > > > 3. Choose the storage location > > Everybody should always be able to migrate their personal data to a > > different provider, server or their own machine at any time without being > > locked in to a specific vendor. It is recommended to have the personal > > server for the personal data in the long term. > > > > It strikes me that this implies that all your data will be stored on one > > provider. In practice I may wish to store my social chit chat on one > > server, my photos on another and my financial transactions on another. > > Would it be part of the manifesto to allow the user this level of > > granularity? > > Hmm. It wasn't the idea to imply that all the data has to be on one place. We > should change the words if you think that this is the meaning of the > sentences. > > Oh good! > > Everybody should always be able to migrate personal data to a different > provider, server, or their own machine, at any time without being locked in > to a specific vendor. It is recommended to have a personal server for > personal data in the long term. > Yes. I agree. > ^^ couple of minor changes -- see what you think What have you changed? Sorry can't find it at the moment. > > > > > > > > > > 4. Control access > > Everybody should be able to know, choose and control who has access to > > their personal data to see or modify it. > > > > 5. Choose the conditions > > If someone chooses to share their personal data, then the user selects the > > sharing license and conditions. > > > > 6. Protect the data from loss > > Everybody should be able to protect their personal data against > > surveillance and to federate their personal data for backups to prevent > > data loss or for any other reason. > > > > 7. Use it optimally > > Everybody should be able to access and use their personal data at all times > > with any device they choose and in the most convenient and easiest way for > > them. > > > > 8. Server software transparency > > Server software should be free software so that the source code of the > > software can be inspected to confirm that it works as specified. > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 15.01.2013, at 17:03, Rich Hilliard <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > if it allows rms to participate, I'm in favor. > > > > > > ________________________________________ > > > From: Frank Karlitschek [[email protected]] > > > Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 10:56 AM > > > To: Rich Hilliard > > > Cc: [email protected]; [email protected] > > > Subject: Re: [GNU/consensus] [RFC][SH] User Data Manifesto > > > > > > O.K. > > > > > > Let's try to do it by email. I hope it's O.K. if we use this mailinglist > > > :-) > > > > > > I will take the current text and merge all the discussed improvements in > > > and send it to the list as first draft. Then we can iterate until we have > > > something that works for everybody. > > > > > > I will send something probably tomorrow. > > > > > > I hope thats a good approach. > > > > > > > > > Frank > > > > > > On 15.01.2013, at 16:34, "Rich Hilliard" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > >> Email is fine with me; who has the current draft version? > > >> > > >> ________________________________________ > > >> Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2013 5:42 PM > > >> To: Frank Karlitschek > > >> Cc: [email protected] > > >> Subject: Re: [GNU/consensus] [RFC][SH] User Data Manifesto > > >> > > >> I'd rather participate the way I have done thus far: by email. > > >> > > >> -- > > >> Dr Richard Stallman > > >> President, Free Software Foundation > > >> 51 Franklin St > > >> Boston MA 02110 > > >> USA > > >> www.fsf.org www.gnu.org > > >> Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. > > >> Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >
