On 20 November 2013 02:18, Simon Hirscher <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 3:22 PM, Andreas Kuckartz <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> These four requirements make it such that any discussion of > "improvements" of > >> the general situation that does not fulfil them should be seen as out of > >> scope for this group of people. > > > > I wonder if all the participants agree with _that_ interpretation. I > > guess that I would have been surprised by it... > > As stated in my other post to this thread, yes, I agree with that > interpretation. > > > But it is unlikely that I would have agreed that improvements of subsets > > of this set of items are out of scope. > > […] > > That meeting decided what is in scope for the GNU/consensus and the > > Social Swarm mailing lists? Really? > > I can't speak for GNU/consensus because I don't know who is part of it > but regarding this mailing list I've seen almost every person that's > been active here in Berlin. So let's wait for their answer regarding > the interpretation of the meeting's results. > > On a different note, and this is just my opinion and might not be the > consensus from the meeting (although I think we scratched this topic): > How many different projects do you want the SocialSwarm initiative to > "focus" on? Everyone's got a day job and is only doing this in his or > her free time. Also taking into account that we're not exactly > hundreds of people here to begin with, I say: Let's focus on one thing > – on getting this right, on fulfilling all 4 points. Why? Because no > one else is doing this. In contrast, there are already *hundreds* of > projects out there working on improvements of approaches that only > fulfill subsets of those 4 items. So these projects are already taken > care of and certainly don't need an umbrella red tape enhancer > project. > Why do you say no other project is working on this? How can you even know every project out there? * E2E + Forward secrecy TLS and SSH have this property. I have been using WebID + TLS for almost 5 years now. * Social Graph Transmission I've been doing this with Linked Data for 5 years, others have done it for 10 years+ *Self Determined Data Storage Yes this is relatively new, but im unsure I've a solution proposed on this list, so far. In our read write web community group we've got the first solutions to this in a very scalable way, that lets users put data *anywhere* they want, including in multiple locations. > > > And I am beginning to wonder if what I see here is representative for > > the CCC... > > What has that got to do with the Chaos Computer Club? > -- > SocialSwarm mailing lists: https://socialswarm.net/en/participate/ > Websites: https://socialswarm.net/ https://wiki.socialswarm.net/ > Liquid Feedback: https://socialswarm.tracciabi.li/ > Digitalcourage, Bielefeld, Germany [email protected] >
