Adam Williamson wrote:

> On Wed, 2003-09-10 at 15:27, Felix Miata wrote:
 
> > The above is very offensive, not so much the family as the size. Those
> > using high resolution displays like 1600x1200 or above see 12px as
 
> Only if their system is misconfigured.

Absolutely not!

> If you use 1600x1200 on a monitor
> below 17" in size, you're misusing it.

Absolutely not! Maybe you'd like to explain the preponderance of
notebook displays of about 15" that are optimized for 1280x1024 (SXGA),
1400x1050 (SXGA+), or even 1600x1200 (UXGA)?

> For a monitor 19" in size or
> bigger, 12pt fonts at 1600x1200 should look pretty much the same size as
> 12pt fonts at 1280x1024 on a 17" monitor, for instance. Point sizes are

Actually not. 1600x1200 is a standard 4/3 aspect ratio, while 1280x1024
is a bastard 5/4 ratio, and everything is malproportioned as a result of
the latter. See http://members.ij.net/mrmazda/auth/aspect.html

Then there's the DPI issue. Pt sizes depend on DPI as well as monitor
size and resolution, while px sizes only depend on monitor size and
resolution. Pt is not an appropriate way to size display fonts:

http://www.w3.org/TR/WAI-WEBCONTENT/#tech-relative-units
http://bobby.watchfire.com/bobby/html/en/gls/g104.html

> relative, not absolute, and therefore if you configure X correctly and
> use a reasonable resolution for your display size, a 12pt font will be
> perfectly fine.

12pt should be fine for about anyone in any case. However, the web page
at issue was not using pt, but rather px, which is entirely different.
Visit http://members.ij.net/mrmazda/auth/allreschooser.html to
understand the impact of 12px, regardless of resolution.

More to help understand the difference:
http://www.elsid.co.za/download/css_fontsizes.htm

> I'm writing this with a 10pt font at 1600x1200 on a 19"
> display and it looks great.

As it should, if DPI is suitably set. For me, at 1600x1200, it takes
somewhere around 168 DPI to make 10pt "right sized" on 19", while on
1280x1024 it takes only 132 DPI to make 10pt "right sized" on 19". I
normally use 1024x768 at 120 DPI, which makes 10pt "right-sized" for me
on 19".

High resolution is for those interested in high quality. It should not
be synonymous with shrunken system controls, which in practice is
generally the case, and the reason why I don't normally use higher than
1024x768 on 19". It was only after upgrading my primary monitor from 17"
to 19" that I switched up from normally using 800x600.

High resolution is about greater accuracy and fidelity within a given
amount of physical space, and shouldn't depend on monitor size at all.
See http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary: [resolution] "h : the process
or capability of making distinguishable the individual parts of an
object, closely adjacent optical images, or sources of light".
-- 
"...[B]e quick to listen, slow to speak and slow to become angry...."
                                                James 1:19 NIV

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