On Thu, 2003-09-11 at 01:07, Felix Miata wrote: > Adam Williamson wrote: > > > On Wed, 2003-09-10 at 15:27, Felix Miata wrote: > > > > The above is very offensive, not so much the family as the size. Those > > > using high resolution displays like 1600x1200 or above see 12px as > > > Only if their system is misconfigured. > > Absolutely not! > > > If you use 1600x1200 on a monitor > > below 17" in size, you're misusing it. > > Absolutely not! Maybe you'd like to explain the preponderance of > notebook displays of about 15" that are optimized for 1280x1024 (SXGA), > 1400x1050 (SXGA+), or even 1600x1200 (UXGA)?
With pleasure. A 15" laptop display is equivalent to a 17" CRT, and LCDs are generally better at being viewable at high resolution anyway, so 1280x1024 or 1400x1050 are perfectly acceptable on them. Personally, I think 1600x1200 is still too high for a 15" LCD. I wouldn't buy a laptop which had such a screen. > > For a monitor 19" in size or > > bigger, 12pt fonts at 1600x1200 should look pretty much the same size as > > 12pt fonts at 1280x1024 on a 17" monitor, for instance. Point sizes are > > Actually not. 1600x1200 is a standard 4/3 aspect ratio, while 1280x1024 > is a bastard 5/4 ratio, and everything is malproportioned as a result of > the latter. See http://members.ij.net/mrmazda/auth/aspect.html Yes, I know this. It was simply an example resolution in the sensible range for monitor size / resolution tradeoff. > Then there's the DPI issue. Pt sizes depend on DPI as well as monitor > size and resolution, while px sizes only depend on monitor size and > resolution. Pt is not an appropriate way to size display fonts: > > http://www.w3.org/TR/WAI-WEBCONTENT/#tech-relative-units > http://bobby.watchfire.com/bobby/html/en/gls/g104.html > > > relative, not absolute, and therefore if you configure X correctly and > > use a reasonable resolution for your display size, a 12pt font will be > > perfectly fine. > > 12pt should be fine for about anyone in any case. However, the web page > at issue was not using pt, but rather px, which is entirely different. > Visit http://members.ij.net/mrmazda/auth/allreschooser.html to > understand the impact of 12px, regardless of resolution. Ah, I thought webpages set sizes in pt. My bad, sorry. -- adamw
