On 22 Jun 2002 10:16:03 +0100 Adam Williamson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Sat, 2002-06-22 at 02:53, Murray J. Root wrote:
> > On Fri, 21 Jun 2002 21:36:02 -0400 (EDT) "Yura Gusev" 
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > > 5. Notice of Automatic Software Updates from Sun.  You acknowledge that
> > > the Software may automatically download, install, and execute applets,
> > > applications, software extensions, and updated versions of the Software
> > > from Sun ("Software Updates"), which may require you to accept updated
> > > terms and conditions for installation. If additional terms and conditions
> > > are not presented on installation, the Software Updates will be considered
> > > part of the Software and subject to the terms and conditions of the
> > > Agreement.
> > > 6. Notice of Automatic Downloads. You acknowledge that, by your use of the
> > > Software and/or by requesting services that require use of the Software,
> > > the Software may automatically download, install, and execute software
> > > applications from sources other than Sun ("Other Software"). Sun makes no
> > > representations of a relationship of any kind to licensors of Other
> > > Software. TO THE EXTENT NOT PROHIBITED BY LAW, IN NO EVENT WILL SUN OR ITS
> > > LICENSORS BE LIABLE FOR ANY LOST REVENUE, PROFIT OR DATA, OR FOR SPECIAL,
> > > INDIRECT, CONSEQUENTIAL, INCIDENTAL OR PUNITIVE DAMAGES, HOWEVER CAUSED
> > > REGARDLESS OF THE THEORY OF LIABILITY, ARISING OUT OF OR RELATED TO THE
> > > USE OF OR INABILITY TO USE OTHER SOFTWARE, EVEN IF SUN HAS BEEN ADVISED OF
> > > THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES.
> > > Why what and WTF? Can you tell me since Sun started developing spyware
> > > software?
> > > 
> > > 
> > There's no mention of spyware here - did you forget a piece? All this says is 
> > it will automatically DOWNLOAD (that means put on your computer, not take from 
> > your computer) updates.
> > 
> 
> Um, 'fraid not. in 6 above: "the Software may automatically download,
> install, and execute software applications from sources other than Sun
> ("Other Software")."
> 
> That's not updates. Clause 5 refers to updates, clause 6 doesn't - it
> lets the software download and install stuff written by other companies,
> maybe without even asking you (this seems to be the implication of
> 'automatically'). That's certainly a license to distribute spyware...and
> they don't even have to write it.

EEeewww! I missed that little bit - I thought the 5 was what you were referring to.
That's the same trick Kazaa pulled.

-- 
Murray J. Root
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