On Tue, Oct 01, 2002 at 11:13:17AM +1000, Ron Stodden wrote:
> Since retracted, plainly, as the fault at issue which they did not want 
> to hear about was finally tested for and accepted by Mandrake.   I am 
> 100% vindicated.
> 
> Go check your facts, sir.

It's only been retracted if GC did it in private email.  And GC wasn't
unhappy with you for reporting a bug.  It was your comment about 9.0
being a "waste of time."  It was about your constant complaining.  And
there is a difference here.  You don't report bugs you complain about
them.

All gc said was that it'd been fixed.  At least I can't find a
retraction in the archives and I certainly don't remember seeing it.
This is probably what you are calling a retraction:
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-cooker&m=103312525009634&w=2

> Off-target, once more, sir.  It is clearly, plainly, a development 
> issue.   I am not aware that you had or have the authority to tell 
> anyone anything.   Are you the moderator?   I thought Mandrake Cooker 
> was not a moderated mailing list.
> Put it away, Ben <G>.

You're complaining to the wrong place about this issue.  It's clearly a
bug in XFree86 4.2.1 with regard to detecting your soundcard as a video
device.  

Putting the BusID in the XFree86 by default is a "bad idea."  Here's
why:

BusID's on PCI are dependent upon the slot.  Consider the following:
[root@dev breser]# XFree86 -scanpci
Probing for PCI devices (Bus:Device:Function)

(0:0:0) unknown chip (DeviceId 0x0305) from VIA
(0:1:0) unknown chip (DeviceId 0x8305) from VIA
(0:7:0) VIA card using a VIA VT 82C686 MVP4 ISA Bridge
(0:7:1) VIA VT 82C586 MVP3 IDE Bridge
(0:7:2) unknown card (0x0925/0x1234) using a VIA VT 82C586 MVP3 USB
Controller
(0:7:3) unknown card (0x0925/0x1234) using a VIA VT 82C586 MVP3 USB
Controller
(0:7:4) VIA VT 8501 MVP4 ACPI Bridge
(0:7:5) unknown card (0x1462/0x3300) using a VIA VT 8501 MVP4 MultiMedia
(0:9:0) unknown card (0x1317/0x0574) using an unknown
chipset(0x1317/0x0985)
(1:0:0) ATI card using a ATI Rage 128 RF

Now I take and move the Ethernet card (which is 0:9:0 above) from one
slot to another.

[root@dev breser]# XFree86 -scanpci | more
Probing for PCI devices (Bus:Device:Function)

(0:0:0) unknown chip (DeviceId 0x0305) from VIA
(0:1:0) unknown chip (DeviceId 0x8305) from VIA
(0:7:0) VIA card using a VIA VT 82C686 MVP4 ISA Bridge
(0:7:1) VIA VT 82C586 MVP3 IDE Bridge
(0:7:2) unknown card (0x0925/0x1234) using a VIA VT 82C586 MVP3 USB
Controller
(0:7:3) unknown card (0x0925/0x1234) using a VIA VT 82C586 MVP3 USB
Controller
(0:7:4) VIA VT 8501 MVP4 ACPI Bridge
(0:7:5) unknown card (0x1462/0x3300) using a VIA VT 8501 MVP4 MultiMedia
(0:12:0) unknown card (0x1317/0x0574) using an unknown
chipset(0x1317/0x0985)
(1:0:0) ATI card using a ATI Rage 128 RF

Now it's on 12.

An inexperienced user who might add some small piece of hardware and end
up shuffling the exact order the cards were put in, or that moved the
card because of space constraints.  Would suddenly find their XFree86
configuration non-functional if you always put BusIDs in.  Granted that
for AGP cards the bus id is currently guaranteed to be the same.  But in
the age of multiheaded systems, I really don't think assuming that won't
change is a safe bet.

As a result BusIDs should only be put in when they are absolutely
necessary.  E.G. multihead systems.  The BusID is merely a workaround to
your problem.  The real problem is a bug in 4.2.1 which is improperly
identifying your hardware.

-- 
Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
http://ben.reser.org

Never take no as an answer from someone who isn't authorized to say yes.

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