On Thu, 7 Nov 2002, J. Greenlees wrote: > the majority of people running ms have no clue as to what is really > happening, and are lost with the amount of data available for linux when > booting and when an app crashes. > I started with Mdk 6.1 and not connected to the net at all, so had to > read and figure out problems myself ( which I prefer to do anyway ) > but I watch as people I know flip when they see my "noquiet" text mode > boot on both my linux boxes. they can't get over the amount of > information being presented and realize how much like morons ms has > always treated their users.
Well, that's what I'm talking about. There already IS a system out there that does everything that the user wants without any interaction and looks pretty and that's it - it's called an iMac running OS X. I LOVE it! Have you seen these? Wow - a really slick system. But that's just it - I have an iMac that I use for some things. My kids use it, my wife uses it. You just sit down and start working. I always come back to my linux though; because I like the configuration that's available. Somewhere along the line you have to make a choice: 1) Do you want to go out and eat at a fancy restaurant and pay the money to get that great meal? 2) Do you want to take it out of the freezer, put it in the microwave and have it ready in 3 minutes? See, both have their advantages, but you can't have both of them. If you put some kind of prompt for every possible configuration choice - it would take you two days to install a system! How many people are going to sit through that? Let alone know the answers. There is a system out there that uses a central database though; everything you install goes into that db and the entire system is tied into it - Windows and the "registry". And if you make one wrong move, forget it, you are NOT going to recover that system. > while a lot of ms users like that, anyone that has to fix computers > after the ignorant user has blown it up doesn't like it. ~g~ > make an install option for windows like use, but never make windows like > changes to tool sets. after all when they blow it up then we can make a > bit of money fixing their system and with the tools available with linux > that should only be a few minutes unless the user got root access and > destroyed everything. See, again, I don't think it's even possible to make an install "windows-like". The apps that are written out there (like messaging clients for example), are written by different people. Everybody approaches "getting the job done" from a different angle. All Mandrake does is build the packages to install on Mandrake systems - they don't do complete re-writes of all the packages. Look at video players - mplayer, xine, ogle and a few more that I can't remember right now. You've got a choice as to which one you want to use, but setting them up to read dvd's, like it or not, is going to be tougher. I think the perfect answer is already out there: urpmi.addmedia plf and contrib. You may not like the idea, but somebody is going to HAVE to read some howto's to get the job done. Mike -- Michael Holt Banning, CA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ www.mandrake.com ============================================================< Bad or missing mouse driver. Spank the cat? (Y/N)