On Sunday 08 December 2002 02:52, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Pixel, > > While I agree with you to a point, newbies won't care WHY Mandrake > doesn't work with this card well and Knoppix does, only that it doesn't. > You say that the way Mandrake handles it is better (ie. it uses the SIS > driver, not a generic one), I beg to differ. My screen was barely > visible with ANY of Mandrake's combo's...with Knoppix it is beautiful. I > don't care which driver gets used, so long as it works!! Does > acceleration matter if you can't see the screen first!!??? I would say > the most important thing is to be able to see the screen!!
I agree completely. What lacks sorely in XFree86, IMHO, is the fallback mechanism - if this driver doesn't work, use another driver, and if nothing works, use some worst case default ( 640x480 generic VGA driver or VESA FB driver for videocard, autoprobe for mice). As in (cough) Windows. Anyway, it is pretty hard these days to find EGA card or (cough) CGA card. > > snip> > > > - SiS630 is quite badly handled by XFree86, and there do exist a lot > > of weird SiS630 working differently. No way to handle them really > > nicely using the "sis" driver. > > Then don't use that driver!! It may have acceleration but you say > there's no way to make it work in all scenarios. Fine, use a driver that > (on a ratio basis) has a better success rate then!! Or let the user choose. Introduce the "Driver" option into XFdrake or drakxconf, let user know that such and such drivers exist for this particular card with such and such advantages and disadvantages. > > Don't compare yourself to "others" Compare yourself to the ones that > "beat" you in some cases. Your answer sounds like a head in the sand > approach to me. > > Knoppix does seem to work better on some configurations, can't Mandrake > learn from this, or is it better to take the moral high ground instead?? > I am not the only one who's had trouble...see the talkbacks at: > http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2002-12-07-004-26-IN-DB-SW&tbovr >mode=1#talkback_area > > Cheers > > Jason > > Pixel wrote: > > - SiS630 is quite badly handled by XFree86, and there do exist a lot > > of weird SiS630 working differently. No way to handle them really > > nicely using the "sis" driver. > > - Knoppix does a worse-is-better configuration on this, using the > > "vesa" driver which is plain not acceptable for most users (no 2d > > acceleration) > > - I do agree that Knoppix did a real nice job with the auto-detection > > & auto-configuration. I don't remember if I had a look at the hardware > > database they're using. I'll do one day... > > > > => I really don't think drakx auto-configuration of X is bad compared > > to others ;p -- Regards, Alex Chudnovsky e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ : 35559910
