On Wed, 15 Jan 2003, Felix Miata wrote: > The system I most often boot to Mandrake has no sound card, and takes > more like a minute to complete a login if not root. There's no excuse > for such behavior to have survived the 9.0 beta process, much less > continue in 9.1. 7.1 has no such problem on the same machine.
Would you rather a newbie has to figure out the 17 groups he needs to be a member of to use his hardware? Would you rather default to having each user on a network being a member of 5 additional groups (1/3 of the available NFS groups per user). (the other alternative is to no allow users on a network access to the hardware on their own machine, or leave it insecure). Really, even n my machine that doesn't handle 700MB ISOs, login takes no more than a few seconds. Of course, you can disable pam_console for console logins, and tell us how you like it ... Remember in 7.1 etc you needed to be a member of the audio group to even run xmms? You had to be in group cdwriter to write a CD, in group tty to use a serial port, and group usb to access you Visor or scanner. This is where Gentoo is atm .... Buchan -- |----------------Registered Linux User #182071-----------------| Buchan Milne Mechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work +27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x121 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7