Not too crazy about cheese or eggs.

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> On Aug 8, 2020, at 12:30 PM, Simon Wong via Cookinginthedark 
> <cookinginthedark@acbradio.org> wrote:
> 
> Someone here actually makes a pretty good chicken pizza,   onions peppers 
> and mushrooms and  put the chicken  without the sauce.
> 
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>> On Aug 7, 2020, at 11:09 PM, meward1954--- via Cookinginthedark 
>> <cookinginthedark@acbradio.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Could you eat a white cheese pizza, if you like that kind of thing?  No
>> tomato sauce.
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Cookinginthedark <cookinginthedark-boun...@acbradio.org> On Behalf Of
>> Simon Wong via Cookinginthedark
>> Sent: Friday, August 7, 2020 7:59 PM
>> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
>> Cc: Simon Wong <gonws2...@yahoo.ca>
>> Subject: Re: [CnD] Homemade Pizza almost
>> 
>> Sorry cannot eat pizza because of acid reflux.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Pamela Fairchild via Cookinginthedark
>> Sent: Friday, August 07, 2020 8:10 PM
>> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
>> Cc: pamelafairch...@comcast.net
>> Subject: Re: [CnD] Homemade Pizza almost
>> 
>> The crust crisps nicely on the edge. It would crisp all over if I weren't so
>> generous with my toppings. If you go easy on the sauce, and just add
>> pepperoni, it gets nice and crispy with the cheese. With the olives sausage
>> and onions, it doesn't get as crisp, but you can pick it up and eat it
>> without it getting floppy. The oil is what helps it to get more crispy. One
>> pita crispins if you skip the sauce and just do pepperoni and cheese. With
>> all the things I add, the two crust idea really helps. I love the cheese
>> between. I may also experiment with flour tortillas or a combination of pita
>> for the first layer and flour tortilla for the third. With fewer toppings
>> the cooking time can be cut to 10 or 15 minutes.
>> 
>> Pamela Fairchild
>> <pamelafairch...@comcast.net>
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Cookinginthedark On Behalf Of diane.fann7--- via Cookinginthedark
>> Sent: Friday, August 7, 2020 7:22 PM
>> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
>> Cc: diane.fa...@gmail.com
>> Subject: Re: [CnD] Homemade Pizza almost
>> 
>> I certainly haven't found any frozen pizza that I like. This looks like all
>> kinds of possibilities. Does the crust get crispy?
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Cookinginthedark <cookinginthedark-boun...@acbradio.org> On Behalf Of
>> Pamela Fairchild via Cookinginthedark
>> Sent: Friday, August 7, 2020 5:26 PM
>> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
>> Cc: pamelafairch...@comcast.net
>> Subject: [CnD] Homemade Pizza almost
>> 
>> DOUBLE CRUST PITA PIZZA
>> 
>> 2 pitas, any size you choose but both should be the same size, or if not,
>> use the larger pita on the bottom.
>> Olive oil
>> Cheese or cheeses of choice
>> Pizza sauce of choice or use any pasta sauce you like, or spaghetti sauce
>> Any toppings of choice
>> 
>> Choose a pan to cook the pizza in or on. These may range from a cookie sheet
>> with an edge to a pizza pan, pie tin, or whatever works with your pitas.
>> Those all come in different sizes.
>> Generously oil your pan, then let the larger pita rest on the oily surface
>> of the pan. Flip the pita making sure there is enough oil to coat the second
>> side, but not as generously as the first side. Flip it one more time so the
>> less oily side is on top.
>> Put cheese slices on the pita for the second layer. Make certain to cover
>> all the pita well to within 1/8 inch of the border.
>> Layer 3 is the second pita. Press it down firmly against the cheese so it
>> all sticks together when the cheese melts.
>> Layer 4 is the sauce. I put it on with an ice cream scoop and used 3 full
>> scoops to cover the crust.
>> Layer 5 was a sausage patty that was cooked in the microwave and then broken
>> up to a crumble. Best to use 2 breakfast patties here.
>> Layer 6 was onions cooked in the same way, I used half an onion and it was a
>> Vidalia.
>> Layer 7 was black olives, I used 10 that I cut up into 3 slices each.
>> Layer 8 was a thin layer of grated cheese, about the same amount in layer 2
>> where I used the slices.
>> Layer 9 was pepperoni, and I was generous with that. If you like it slightly
>> well done like I do, put it on top. If you like it less done then put it
>> under your last cheese layer.
>> Cook in a toaster oven at 400 degrees for 20 minutes. I put it in the cold
>> oven rather than preheating, and it worked fine.
>> I had to let this cool a bit before cutting. It turned out great. There will
>> be many more of these in my future!
>> 
>> Pamela Fairchild
>> <pamelafairch...@comcast.net>
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Cookinginthedark On Behalf Of Linda S. via Cookinginthedark
>> Sent: Friday, August 7, 2020 3:52 PM
>> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
>> Cc: Linda S. <lindahoney...@gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [CnD] Matches and irrational fears
>> 
>> I love these stories. We can immagine ourselves sitting around a table of
>> food that we all cooked just telling our stories. How fun!
>> 
>>>> On 8/6/2020 10:58 PM, Carol Ashland via Cookinginthedark wrote:
>>> When I was a child, we lived in a little trailer house. I had a little
>> potty chair in a shed om the porch, but I suppose my parents used an out
>> house. I don't know what my mother did with the laundry. There was a storm,
>> and the roof of the house caved in right above me because of the weight of
>> the snow. Then we moved into a real house. I loved that house. The back yard
>> was literally carved out of the forest. There were birds galore in and over
>> the back yard, and across the gravel road that went through the community. I
>> used to walk up the road to a neighbor's house. She had a washboard to cope
>> with her laundry. My mother got a ringer washer, and finally a regular
>> washer and dryer, which we had until we sold the house on Arthur Street.
>> They don't make appliances as durable now as they used to!
>>> 
>>> Carol Ashland
>>> carol97...@gmail.com
>>> Sent from my BrailleNote Touch+On Aug 6, 2020 6:38 AM, Pamela 
>>> Fairchild
>> via Cookinginthedark <cookinginthedark@acbradio.org> wrote:
>>>> Oh, yes, I remember ringer washers and hanging my clothes on the 
>>>> clothes line outside, and on a wooden rack in the house in winter. I 
>>>> am so grateful to live in this country, and in this day and age with 
>>>> modern conveniences. I can remember outhouses in my youth, and wood 
>>>> heating stoves and coal stoves where only one room of the house was 
>>>> heated. I remember coming to the living room to get dressed where it 
>>>> was warmer, and when the electricity wasn't always reliable. Now we 
>>>> are very spoiled in many ways. I for one don't have the physical 
>>>> strength
>> of my older relatives. I don't have to work as hard.
>>>> We wouldn't have survived when I was young if we had not grown a 
>>>> garden and put food up for the winter by canning it or drying it. I 
>>>> remember when my grandmother got her first freezer. It lived outside 
>>>> on the front porch, which was covered, but open to the wind.
>>>> 
>>>> Pamela Fairchild
>>>> <pamelafairch...@comcast.net>
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Cookinginthedark On Behalf Of meward1954--- via 
>>>> Cookinginthedark
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2020 8:58 PM
>>>> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
>>>> Cc: meward1...@gmail.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [CnD] Matches and irrational fears
>>>> 
>>>> OMG!  My washboard was actually stone, a shallow stone basin with 
>>>> places for the water to come out and a drain in the middle.  There 
>>>> was a bigger basin to the side where you could soak the clothes.
>>>> 
>>>> We had those gas things, too.  I lived with another woman for a while 
>>>> in a set of rooms, not connected, on the top floor of a building.  It 
>>>> was not really safe.  I should have told her no.  Anyway, one night, 
>>>> somebody came up all those stairs and stole my gas tank.  I tried to 
>>>> make coffee in the morning and could not light the stove.  No gas.
>>>> Literally no gas.  I cried, cursed, and moaned  multilingually.
>>>> 
>>>> I had electricity most of the time, though it sometimes went off.
>>>> Same with the water.  Sometimes during the summer, there was not 
>>>> enough water pressure to get the water up to our apartment, this was 
>>>> another roommate.  So we had to carry jugs and buckets up those 
>>>> uneven stairs.  I couldn't do it now.  I am such a chicken now.
>>>> 
>>>> I was lucky living in the mountains. It was cold enough that I could 
>>>> safely keep cooked food for a couple of days.  But if it had meat, it 
>>>> had to be boiled every twelve hours or else thrown away.  I never 
>>>> ever cooked chicken at home.  I didn't trust it.  That is what 
>>>> restaurants were for.  Yes, we had restaurants.
>>>> 
>>>> Those were definitely the days.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Cookinginthedark <cookinginthedark-boun...@acbradio.org> On 
>>>> Behalf Of Linda S. via Cookinginthedark
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2020 7:30 PM
>>>> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
>>>> Cc: Linda S. <lindahoney...@gmail.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [CnD] Matches and irrational fears
>>>> 
>>>> Wow, this brings back a memory. When I lived in Mexico, I learned to 
>>>> wash my clothes with a wash board. The gas stove was also different 
>>>> because you had to buy the gas in tanks and connect them to the 
>>>> stove. I ex in-laws would do that thank God. There were people who 
>>>> would go through the colonia and yell out what they had, for example, 
>>>> gas, water, yams, the postman with the mail etc.
>>>> 
>>>> We went to the store every day to buy meat and veges as there wasn't 
>>>> a refrigerator in the house. If there wasn't money to pay for 
>>>> electricity, well it just plain got turned off, no compromising until 
>>>> it
>> was paid.
>>>> Those were the days, but I wouldn't trade them for anything, or the 
>>>> lessons I learned.
>>>> 
>>>> On 8/5/2020 4:23 PM, meward1954--- via Cookinginthedark wrote:
>>>>> Regarding getting the match to the gas flame, my burner was a very 
>>>>> cheap little thing.  It is possible that the reason I didn't have 
>>>>> much trouble with that part is that it was not what I was afraid of.
>>>>> But I know these gas things come in lots of configurations.
>>>>> Actually, it had a disturbing history.  I bought it from another 
>>>>> Peace Corps Volunteer who had been killed in a bus accident.  His 
>>>>> brother came to take care of his things and visit with us.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I had an electric range top before the gas one, but it had died.
>>>>> That electric burner was actually quite a bit more dangerous than 
>>>>> the gas one was.  As I found out when it died on me.  Nearly caught 
>>>>> the table on
>>>> fire.
>>>>> I was actually too scared to react.  So I had to buy a gas one no 
>>>>> matter what.
>>>>> 
>>>>> When I moved back here to Texas, it was as though I had never been 
>>>>> through any of that.
>>>>> 
>>>>> There are still so many parts of the world where most people don't 
>>>>> have access to the conveniences we take for granted here.
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Cookinginthedark <cookinginthedark-boun...@acbradio.org> On 
>>>>> Behalf Of Immigrant via Cookinginthedark
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2020 3:07 PM
>>>>> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
>>>>> Cc: Immigrant <immigrant...@verizon.net>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [CnD] Matches and irrational fears
>>>>> 
>>>>> As far as matches - for me it was not a fear of matches themselves, 
>>>>> it was simple inability to work with them. I would start a gas 
>>>>> burner, strike a match away from the stove so I wouldn't cause a gas 
>>>>> explosion, and when I tried to bring the match to the burner to 
>>>>> light the flame, the match would burn in my fingers faster than I 
>>>>> was able to bring it to the burner, and I would instinctively drop 
>>>>> it onto the stove surface between burners. That was before I came to 
>>>>> America. I am
>>>> glad my stove now has electric ignition.
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Cookinginthedark <cookinginthedark-boun...@acbradio.org> On 
>>>>> Behalf Of
>>>>> meward1954--- via Cookinginthedark
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2020 10:12 AM
>>>>> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
>>>>> Cc: meward1...@gmail.com
>>>>> Subject: [CnD] Matches and irrational fears
>>>>> 
>>>>> I used to have to light my burners with a match back when I lived in 
>>>>> Ecuador.  I had to work with a friend to light them because I was so 
>>>>> afraid of them.  She spent several hours with me getting me over my 
>>>>> fear.  I'll never forget it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I had to  light the match and then light the stove with the lit 
>>>>> match, which all my sighted friends said was more scary than 
>>>>> lighting the match
>>>> itself.
>>>>> I had to do this or go hungry.  It was that simple.
>>>>> 
>>>>> But guess what?  Now that I am back in Texas, I am just as much 
>>>>> afraid of lighting matches as I was before.  I am also afraid of my 
>>>>> Instant Pot.  Even though I used a regular pressure cooker in 
>>>>> Ecuador almost every day.  In fact, I may have used the regular 
>>>>> pressure cooker two or three times on some days.  But now, I am 
>>>>> terrified of even my very safe Instant Pot.  I guess I am going to 
>>>>> have to make myself use it a few times to get over this.  And I will
>> have to keep using it.
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Cookinginthedark <cookinginthedark-boun...@acbradio.org> On 
>>>>> Behalf Of Ron Kolesar via Cookinginthedark
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2020 10:08 PM
>>>>> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
>>>>> Cc: Ron Kolesar <kolesar16...@roadrunner.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [CnD] Preferred cooking methods
>>>>> 
>>>>> I don't use the oven top as well.
>>>>> With the island that came with the house.
>>>>> The gas admitter burned out.
>>>>> So, to use the oven these days you need to strike the stove with a
>> match.
>>>>> So, that's out for me and the toaster oven and microwave is over used.
>>>>> SMILES.
>>>>> Ron
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Immigrant via Cookinginthedark
>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 3, 2020 17:02
>>>>> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
>>>>> Cc: Immigrant
>>>>> Subject: [CnD] Preferred cooking methods
>>>>> 
>>>>> I use the oven and the microwave for my cooking, trying to avoid 
>>>>> stovetop cooking as I don't trust myself boiling and especially 
>>>>> frying. And I cannot think of any foods that I would prefer boiled
>> anyway.
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Cookinginthedark <cookinginthedark-boun...@acbradio.org> On 
>>>>> Behalf Of Karen Delzer via Cookinginthedark
>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 3, 2020 3:48 PM
>>>>> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
>>>>> Cc: Karen Delzer <catwa...@verizon.net>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [CnD] Cooking Brown Rice in a rice cooker
>>>>> 
>>>>> We use Success rice sometimes, and it's great! You just boil the bag 
>>>>> for about ten minutes, and then you're done. They've got different 
>>>>> ones,
>>>> too.
>>>>> Karen
>>>>> 
>>>>> At 12:44 PM 8/3/2020, you wrote:
>>>>>> As I said, my rice is minute rice, so it is partially cooked. It 
>>>>>> comes in 4-ounce cups, and it is meant for microwaving. I don't buy 
>>>>>> regular rice because I don't feel the need for a bag of 5 or more 
>>>>>> pounds of rice for just me, and all that stovetop cooking for just 
>>>>>> one person when I can cook a couple of those cups for a minute and 
>>>>>> a half and they are ready. To rinse or not to rinse is not a 
>>>>>> question as this rice is prepackaged and I cook it in its cup.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Cookinginthedark <cookinginthedark-boun...@acbradio.org> On 
>>>>>> Behalf Of Deborah Armstrong via Cookinginthedark
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 3, 2020 11:30 AM
>>>>>> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
>>>>>> Cc: Deborah Armstrong <armstrongdebo...@fhda.edu>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [CnD] Cooking Brown Rice in a rice cooker
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Well I prepare rice completely differently but I mostly eat brown.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I have read that it is important to rinse rice, but packages in the 
>>>>>> U.S. and cookbooks published in America advise against it.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Turns out after further reading, I found out why; rinsing 
>>>>>> originally removed field debris. Now that rice is prepared in 
>>>>>> factories, rinsing removes excess starch which can make it sticky.
>>>>>> The reason they advise against rinsing is given is that here in 
>>>>>> America, rice is fortified with spray-on vitamins and minerals 
>>>>>> which
>> rinsing removes.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If you eat plenty of vegies you don't need the spray-on nutrients, 
>>>>>> so go ahead and rinse it to remove the starch.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I put my rice in my cooker with 1 cup of rice to 3 cups of water 
>>>>>> for brown and 2 cups of water for white. I sprinkle in a little 
>>>>>> salt; that's all. I then let it sit an hour or two. I've read this 
>>>>>> makes the rice better absorb the liquid and this works especially 
>>>>>> well for brown;
>>>>> makes it less chewy.
>>>>>> I let the cooker do its thing; there's a sensor that knows when the 
>>>>>> water is almost gone. Once it is back to just warming, I turn it 
>>>>>> off and let it set ten minutes. Then I stir and cover again so it 
>>>>>> won't dry out and put it in the fridge when it's cool enough.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I generally flavor it when I add other things -- for example I 
>>>>>> might microwave it with garlic or curry and vegies. Or I might mix 
>>>>>> it with cumin and add it to enchiladas. Or I might make a salad 
>>>>>> with cold rice, mayo, vegies, spices, pickles -- yum.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I have tried flavoring it in the cooker, but especially with brown 
>>>>>> rice, the hull is so thick that most of the flavoring is lost.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --Debee
>>>>>> 
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