You can buy pans that have racks inside them. Some of the racks sit high in the pan, almost on top, and others have racks that sit lower in the pan but still allow the air to circulate around the pizza. They are not made for pizzas but will work if large enough. The talking toaster oven has a square pan that fits in below the oven rack so you can place the pan below the rack, place the pizza on the rack, then pull both out together when the cooking time is finished. You can remove both together and set it on a breadboard to cool a bit before taking the pizza off. That also works very nicely.
Pamela Fairchild <pamelafairch...@comcast.net> -----Original Message----- From: Cookinginthedark On Behalf Of Linda S. via Cookinginthedark Sent: Friday, August 7, 2020 8:38 PM To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org Cc: Linda S. <lindahoney...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [CnD] Homemade Pizza almost This recipe sounds so good! You have to really watch out with the frozen pizzas as sometimes the directions tell you to put the pizza right on the oven rack. I hate that; knowing me I'd drop it when taking it out of the oven. So, when buying it, make sure to have someone read the directions first. A good example of this, ... and I love this pizza, is California Pizza. This makes me happy to have a sighted husband. (smile) On 8/7/2020 5:29 PM, Pamela Fairchild via Cookinginthedark wrote: > My favorite frozen pizza is Tomb Stone because it always gets crisp > when cooked the first time around. I notice that the more things I add > to it though the less likely it is to get as crisp. I like a thin > crust pizza. I have a good recipe for that in a book somewhere. But > then you have to press it into the pan, spread it evenly, or roll it > out and hope you can get it into the pan without any trouble. Mostly > it isn't worth the time. Then you have to cook it for about 7 minutes > before adding the toppings if you want it to get crispy all over the bottom. > My favorite deep dish pizza, even though the crust is thicker than I > like, is Pizza Hut crust. It is always crisp. I hate to think of how > much oil it must take to get that effect, but maybe they also add some > cornmeal to help out in the batter. I must search for it in a copycat > site if I can find such a thing. > > Pamela Fairchild > <pamelafairch...@comcast.net> > > -----Original Message----- > From: Cookinginthedark On Behalf Of meward1954--- via Cookinginthedark > Sent: Friday, August 7, 2020 7:52 PM > To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org > Cc: meward1...@gmail.com > Subject: Re: [CnD] Homemade Pizza almost > > Frozen pizza is an abomination. But I have decided in my old age that > it can be sort of fun, even though it's awful. In a way, my favorite > frozen pizza has to be the Costco brand. You get a whole bunch of > them for real cheap. They are perfectly horrible, probably the worst ones of them all. > But for some reason, I sort of like that brand anyway. Maybe it's > because they don't pretend that the crust is any good, so it doesn't > gum up like most of the others. > > There are recipes these days for pizza crust made with plain, full-fat > yogurt and self-rising flour. It takes a lot of mixing, but doesn't > take as long as the kind with the yeast. It isn't as good either, but > it is quite acceptable. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Cookinginthedark <cookinginthedark-boun...@acbradio.org> On > Behalf Of > diane.fann7--- via Cookinginthedark > Sent: Friday, August 7, 2020 6:22 PM > To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org > Cc: diane.fa...@gmail.com > Subject: Re: [CnD] Homemade Pizza almost > > I certainly haven't found any frozen pizza that I like. This looks > like all kinds of possibilities. Does the crust get crispy? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Cookinginthedark <cookinginthedark-boun...@acbradio.org> On > Behalf Of Pamela Fairchild via Cookinginthedark > Sent: Friday, August 7, 2020 5:26 PM > To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org > Cc: pamelafairch...@comcast.net > Subject: [CnD] Homemade Pizza almost > > DOUBLE CRUST PITA PIZZA > > 2 pitas, any size you choose but both should be the same size, or if > not, use the larger pita on the bottom. > Olive oil > Cheese or cheeses of choice > Pizza sauce of choice or use any pasta sauce you like, or spaghetti > sauce Any toppings of choice > > Choose a pan to cook the pizza in or on. These may range from a cookie > sheet with an edge to a pizza pan, pie tin, or whatever works with your pitas. > Those all come in different sizes. > Generously oil your pan, then let the larger pita rest on the oily > surface of the pan. Flip the pita making sure there is enough oil to > coat the second side, but not as generously as the first side. Flip it > one more time so the less oily side is on top. > Put cheese slices on the pita for the second layer. Make certain to > cover all the pita well to within 1/8 inch of the border. > Layer 3 is the second pita. Press it down firmly against the cheese so > it all sticks together when the cheese melts. > Layer 4 is the sauce. I put it on with an ice cream scoop and used 3 > full scoops to cover the crust. > Layer 5 was a sausage patty that was cooked in the microwave and then > broken up to a crumble. Best to use 2 breakfast patties here. > Layer 6 was onions cooked in the same way, I used half an onion and it > was a Vidalia. > Layer 7 was black olives, I used 10 that I cut up into 3 slices each. > Layer 8 was a thin layer of grated cheese, about the same amount in > layer 2 where I used the slices. > Layer 9 was pepperoni, and I was generous with that. If you like it > slightly well done like I do, put it on top. If you like it less done > then put it under your last cheese layer. > Cook in a toaster oven at 400 degrees for 20 minutes. I put it in the > cold oven rather than preheating, and it worked fine. > I had to let this cool a bit before cutting. It turned out great. > There will be many more of these in my future! > > Pamela Fairchild > <pamelafairch...@comcast.net> > > -----Original Message----- > From: Cookinginthedark On Behalf Of Linda S. via Cookinginthedark > Sent: Friday, August 7, 2020 3:52 PM > To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org > Cc: Linda S. <lindahoney...@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [CnD] Matches and irrational fears > > I love these stories. We can immagine ourselves sitting around a table > of food that we all cooked just telling our stories. How fun! > > On 8/6/2020 10:58 PM, Carol Ashland via Cookinginthedark wrote: >> When I was a child, we lived in a little trailer house. I had a >> little > potty chair in a shed om the porch, but I suppose my parents used an > out house. I don't know what my mother did with the laundry. There was > a storm, and the roof of the house caved in right above me because of > the weight of the snow. Then we moved into a real house. I loved that > house. The back yard was literally carved out of the forest. There > were birds galore in and over the back yard, and across the gravel > road that went through the community. I used to walk up the road to a > neighbor's house. She had a washboard to cope with her laundry. My > mother got a ringer washer, and finally a regular washer and dryer, which we had until we sold the house on Arthur Street. > They don't make appliances as durable now as they used to! >> Carol Ashland >> carol97...@gmail.com >> Sent from my BrailleNote Touch+On Aug 6, 2020 6:38 AM, Pamela >> Fairchild > via Cookinginthedark <cookinginthedark@acbradio.org> wrote: >>> Oh, yes, I remember ringer washers and hanging my clothes on the >>> clothes line outside, and on a wooden rack in the house in winter. I >>> am so grateful to live in this country, and in this day and age with >>> modern conveniences. I can remember outhouses in my youth, and wood >>> heating stoves and coal stoves where only one room of the house was >>> heated. I remember coming to the living room to get dressed where it >>> was warmer, and when the electricity wasn't always reliable. Now we >>> are very spoiled in many ways. I for one don't have the physical >>> strength > of my older relatives. I don't have to work as hard. >>> We wouldn't have survived when I was young if we had not grown a >>> garden and put food up for the winter by canning it or drying it. I >>> remember when my grandmother got her first freezer. It lived outside >>> on the front porch, which was covered, but open to the wind. >>> >>> Pamela Fairchild >>> <pamelafairch...@comcast.net> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Cookinginthedark On Behalf Of meward1954--- via >>> Cookinginthedark >>> Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2020 8:58 PM >>> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org >>> Cc: meward1...@gmail.com >>> Subject: Re: [CnD] Matches and irrational fears >>> >>> OMG! My washboard was actually stone, a shallow stone basin with >>> places for the water to come out and a drain in the middle. There >>> was a bigger basin to the side where you could soak the clothes. >>> >>> We had those gas things, too. I lived with another woman for a >>> while in a set of rooms, not connected, on the top floor of a >>> building. It was not really safe. I should have told her no. >>> Anyway, one night, somebody came up all those stairs and stole my >>> gas tank. I tried to make coffee in the morning and could not light the stove. No gas. >>> Literally no gas. I cried, cursed, and moaned multilingually. >>> >>> I had electricity most of the time, though it sometimes went off. >>> Same with the water. Sometimes during the summer, there was not >>> enough water pressure to get the water up to our apartment, this was >>> another roommate. So we had to carry jugs and buckets up those >>> uneven stairs. I couldn't do it now. I am such a chicken now. >>> >>> I was lucky living in the mountains. It was cold enough that I could >>> safely keep cooked food for a couple of days. But if it had meat, >>> it had to be boiled every twelve hours or else thrown away. I never >>> ever cooked chicken at home. I didn't trust it. That is what >>> restaurants were for. Yes, we had restaurants. >>> >>> Those were definitely the days. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Cookinginthedark <cookinginthedark-boun...@acbradio.org> On >>> Behalf Of Linda S. via Cookinginthedark >>> Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2020 7:30 PM >>> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org >>> Cc: Linda S. <lindahoney...@gmail.com> >>> Subject: Re: [CnD] Matches and irrational fears >>> >>> Wow, this brings back a memory. When I lived in Mexico, I learned to >>> wash my clothes with a wash board. The gas stove was also different >>> because you had to buy the gas in tanks and connect them to the >>> stove. I ex in-laws would do that thank God. There were people who >>> would go through the colonia and yell out what they had, for >>> example, gas, water, yams, the postman with the mail etc. >>> >>> We went to the store every day to buy meat and veges as there wasn't >>> a refrigerator in the house. If there wasn't money to pay for >>> electricity, well it just plain got turned off, no compromising >>> until it > was paid. >>> Those were the days, but I wouldn't trade them for anything, or the >>> lessons I learned. >>> >>> On 8/5/2020 4:23 PM, meward1954--- via Cookinginthedark wrote: >>>> Regarding getting the match to the gas flame, my burner was a very >>>> cheap little thing. It is possible that the reason I didn't have >>>> much trouble with that part is that it was not what I was afraid of. >>>> But I know these gas things come in lots of configurations. >>>> Actually, it had a disturbing history. I bought it from another >>>> Peace Corps Volunteer who had been killed in a bus accident. His >>>> brother came to take care of his things and visit with us. >>>> >>>> I had an electric range top before the gas one, but it had died. >>>> That electric burner was actually quite a bit more dangerous than >>>> the gas one was. As I found out when it died on me. Nearly caught >>>> the table on >>> fire. >>>> I was actually too scared to react. So I had to buy a gas one no >>>> matter what. >>>> >>>> When I moved back here to Texas, it was as though I had never been >>>> through any of that. >>>> >>>> There are still so many parts of the world where most people don't >>>> have access to the conveniences we take for granted here. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Cookinginthedark <cookinginthedark-boun...@acbradio.org> On >>>> Behalf Of Immigrant via Cookinginthedark >>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2020 3:07 PM >>>> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org >>>> Cc: Immigrant <immigrant...@verizon.net> >>>> Subject: Re: [CnD] Matches and irrational fears >>>> >>>> As far as matches - for me it was not a fear of matches themselves, >>>> it was simple inability to work with them. I would start a gas >>>> burner, strike a match away from the stove so I wouldn't cause a >>>> gas explosion, and when I tried to bring the match to the burner to >>>> light the flame, the match would burn in my fingers faster than I >>>> was able to bring it to the burner, and I would instinctively drop >>>> it onto the stove surface between burners. That was before I came >>>> to America. I am >>> glad my stove now has electric ignition. >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Cookinginthedark <cookinginthedark-boun...@acbradio.org> On >>>> Behalf Of >>>> meward1954--- via Cookinginthedark >>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2020 10:12 AM >>>> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org >>>> Cc: meward1...@gmail.com >>>> Subject: [CnD] Matches and irrational fears >>>> >>>> I used to have to light my burners with a match back when I lived >>>> in Ecuador. I had to work with a friend to light them because I >>>> was so afraid of them. She spent several hours with me getting me >>>> over my fear. I'll never forget it. >>>> >>>> I had to light the match and then light the stove with the lit >>>> match, which all my sighted friends said was more scary than >>>> lighting the match >>> itself. >>>> I had to do this or go hungry. It was that simple. >>>> >>>> But guess what? Now that I am back in Texas, I am just as much >>>> afraid of lighting matches as I was before. I am also afraid of my >>>> Instant Pot. Even though I used a regular pressure cooker in >>>> Ecuador almost every day. In fact, I may have used the regular >>>> pressure cooker two or three times on some days. But now, I am >>>> terrified of even my very safe Instant Pot. I guess I am going to >>>> have to make myself use it a few times to get over this. And I >>>> will > have to keep using it. >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Cookinginthedark <cookinginthedark-boun...@acbradio.org> On >>>> Behalf Of Ron Kolesar via Cookinginthedark >>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2020 10:08 PM >>>> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org >>>> Cc: Ron Kolesar <kolesar16...@roadrunner.com> >>>> Subject: Re: [CnD] Preferred cooking methods >>>> >>>> I don't use the oven top as well. >>>> With the island that came with the house. >>>> The gas admitter burned out. >>>> So, to use the oven these days you need to strike the stove with a > match. >>>> So, that's out for me and the toaster oven and microwave is over used. >>>> SMILES. >>>> Ron >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Immigrant via Cookinginthedark >>>> Sent: Monday, August 3, 2020 17:02 >>>> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org >>>> Cc: Immigrant >>>> Subject: [CnD] Preferred cooking methods >>>> >>>> I use the oven and the microwave for my cooking, trying to avoid >>>> stovetop cooking as I don't trust myself boiling and especially >>>> frying. And I cannot think of any foods that I would prefer boiled > anyway. >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Cookinginthedark <cookinginthedark-boun...@acbradio.org> On >>>> Behalf Of Karen Delzer via Cookinginthedark >>>> Sent: Monday, August 3, 2020 3:48 PM >>>> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org >>>> Cc: Karen Delzer <catwa...@verizon.net> >>>> Subject: Re: [CnD] Cooking Brown Rice in a rice cooker >>>> >>>> We use Success rice sometimes, and it's great! You just boil the >>>> bag for about ten minutes, and then you're done. They've got >>>> different ones, >>> too. >>>> Karen >>>> >>>> At 12:44 PM 8/3/2020, you wrote: >>>>> As I said, my rice is minute rice, so it is partially cooked. It >>>>> comes in 4-ounce cups, and it is meant for microwaving. I don't >>>>> buy regular rice because I don't feel the need for a bag of 5 or >>>>> more pounds of rice for just me, and all that stovetop cooking for >>>>> just one person when I can cook a couple of those cups for a >>>>> minute and a half and they are ready. To rinse or not to rinse is >>>>> not a question as this rice is prepackaged and I cook it in its cup. >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: Cookinginthedark <cookinginthedark-boun...@acbradio.org> On >>>>> Behalf Of Deborah Armstrong via Cookinginthedark >>>>> Sent: Monday, August 3, 2020 11:30 AM >>>>> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org >>>>> Cc: Deborah Armstrong <armstrongdebo...@fhda.edu> >>>>> Subject: Re: [CnD] Cooking Brown Rice in a rice cooker >>>>> >>>>> Well I prepare rice completely differently but I mostly eat brown. >>>>> >>>>> I have read that it is important to rinse rice, but packages in >>>>> the U.S. and cookbooks published in America advise against it. >>>>> >>>>> Turns out after further reading, I found out why; rinsing >>>>> originally removed field debris. Now that rice is prepared in >>>>> factories, rinsing removes excess starch which can make it sticky. >>>>> The reason they advise against rinsing is given is that here in >>>>> America, rice is fortified with spray-on vitamins and minerals >>>>> which > rinsing removes. >>>>> If you eat plenty of vegies you don't need the spray-on nutrients, >>>>> so go ahead and rinse it to remove the starch. >>>>> >>>>> I put my rice in my cooker with 1 cup of rice to 3 cups of water >>>>> for brown and 2 cups of water for white. I sprinkle in a little >>>>> salt; that's all. I then let it sit an hour or two. I've read this >>>>> makes the rice better absorb the liquid and this works especially >>>>> well for brown; >>>> makes it less chewy. >>>>> I let the cooker do its thing; there's a sensor that knows when >>>>> the water is almost gone. Once it is back to just warming, I turn >>>>> it off and let it set ten minutes. Then I stir and cover again so >>>>> it won't dry out and put it in the fridge when it's cool enough. >>>>> >>>>> I generally flavor it when I add other things -- for example I >>>>> might microwave it with garlic or curry and vegies. Or I might mix >>>>> it with cumin and add it to enchiladas. Or I might make a salad >>>>> with cold rice, mayo, vegies, spices, pickles -- yum. >>>>> >>>>> I have tried flavoring it in the cooker, but especially with brown >>>>> rice, the hull is so thick that most of the flavoring is lost. >>>>> >>>>> --Debee >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Cookinginthedark mailing list >>>>> Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org >>>>> http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Cookinginthedark mailing list >>>>> Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org >>>>> http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Cookinginthedark mailing list >>>> Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org >>>> http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Cookinginthedark mailing list >>>> Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org >>>> http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark >>>> >>>> In the good old days of Morse code Shorthand, 73's AKA Best Regards >>>> and or Best Whishes,From Ron Kolesar Volunteer Certified Licensed >>>> Emergency Communications Station And Volunteer Certified Licensed >>>> Ham Radio Station With the Call Sign of KR3DOG >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Cookinginthedark mailing list >>>> Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org >>>> http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Cookinginthedark mailing list >>>> Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org >>>> http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Cookinginthedark mailing list >>>> Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org >>>> http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Cookinginthedark mailing list >>>> Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org >>>> http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Cookinginthedark mailing list >>> Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org >>> http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Cookinginthedark mailing list >>> Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org >>> http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Cookinginthedark mailing list >>> Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org >>> http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark >> _______________________________________________ >> Cookinginthedark mailing list >> Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org >> http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark > _______________________________________________ > Cookinginthedark mailing list > Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org > http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark > > _______________________________________________ > Cookinginthedark mailing list > Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org > http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark > > > -- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > https://www.avg.com > > _______________________________________________ > Cookinginthedark mailing list > Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org > http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark > > _______________________________________________ > Cookinginthedark mailing list > Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org > http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark > > _______________________________________________ > Cookinginthedark mailing list > Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org > http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark _______________________________________________ Cookinginthedark mailing list Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark _______________________________________________ Cookinginthedark mailing list Cookinginthedark@acbradio.org http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark
