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> De: "Paul Benedict" <pbened...@apache.org>
> À: "Peter Levart" <peter.lev...@gmail.com>
> Cc: "core-libs-dev" <core-libs-dev@openjdk.java.net>
> Envoyé: Mercredi 30 Septembre 2015 16:06:18
> Objet: Re: RFR 8135248: Add utility methods to check indexes and ranges
> 
> Ah, I was going to write about "values" ... glad this was mentioned. With
> Valhalla working on value classes, it does raise the question if
> range-checking is particular to Objects. Clearly it won't be once values
> are introduced.
> 
> PS: I am still in favor of using Objects at the time being though just to
> get something checked-in.

I am in favor of Objects too,
but I think the name (oh no bikeshedding again) should start with require* too 
make it clear that it goes with requireNonNull

'requireIndexInBounds' anyone ?

> 
> 
> Cheers,
> Paul

cheers,
Rémi

> 
> On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 2:34 AM, Peter Levart <peter.lev...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > On 09/29/2015 10:01 PM, Paul Sandoz wrote:
> >
> >> >I think it's worth introducing Preconditions class. checkNotNull
> >>> overloads are equally well suited for Objects as they are for
> >>> Preconditions, so it's not wrong to have them in both, while checkIndex
> >>> and
> >>> friends don't really suit any of the existing classes. If I would have to
> >>> search for them in among existing classes, Arrays would be the place to
> >>> look first. List interface the 2nd. IndexOutOfBoundsException wouldn't
> >>> come
> >>> to my mind, as Exception(s) are usually not homes for logic, neither
> >>> would
> >>> Integer which is to abstract to mentally associate it with array or list
> >>> index checks.
> >>> >
> >>>
> >> The concern i have is once Preconditions is let loose the scope expands
> >> with proposals for “just one more method” (there is even the opportunity
> >> to
> >> bike shed over the names checkNotNull or requiresNotNull etc. etc.)  I
> >> don’t want to discuss such additional methods right now otherwise i will
> >> never make progress with the current set.
> >>
> >> A way forward is to initially include Preconditions with*only*  the check
> >> index methods, and in subsequent proposals selectively add more. At the
> >> moment i am still leaning towards Objects.
> >>
> >> Paul.
> >>
> >>
> > I promise I won't discuss any other methods - just checkIndex and friends
> > (small steps...)
> > But having them in Objects would be very strange. Indexes are not objects
> > - they are values.
> >
> >
> > Regards, Peter
> >
> 

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