I agree with patrick :-)
On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 1:38 PM Patrick Georgi <[email protected]> wrote: > > It's also possible to make Linux (with included ramdisk) into a > payload, so maybe that could be a middle ground: It's still usable by > all payloads that can execute payloads, it's still Linux + userland in > a more or less normal configuration. It has some overhead, but OTOH > brings the peace of mind of the battle hardened environment. > > > Patrick > > Am Fr., 15. Feb. 2019 um 22:33 Uhr schrieb Matt B > <[email protected]>: > > > > Makes sense. That was one thing that gave me a bit of a gut feeling to do > > it in a small linux install than to try to integrate more tightly with the > > firmware. The linux utility is what everyone uses and should be more > > reliable. > > > > I've been recently burned by that issue too, on proprietary firmware from > > around 2008. > > > > -Matt > > > > On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 7:56 PM ron minnich <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 9:29 AM Matt B <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > > >> > Hi, > >> > > >> > I was helping a friend with a bios issue (we may have an involuntary > >> > coreboot convert on our hands ;) ) and realized that a lot of BIOSs > >> > provide a way for the BIOS to flash itself but Coreboot doesn't. > >> > >> And, for the record, this was intentional, a decision I made in 1999 > >> when I started the project. I had been burned big time by firmware > >> systems that claimed to be able to reliably reflash themselves, and > >> the history of UEFI self-reflash, at least in my view, confirms that > >> this was the right call. > >> > >> I just wanted to make clear that this was not an oversight, it was a > >> decision we made from the start. We always felt more willing to trust > >> a user mode program running under Linux to get it right, as opposed to > >> some magic thing in the firmware ... :-) > >> > >> thanks > >> > >> ron > > > > _______________________________________________ > > coreboot mailing list -- [email protected] > > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] > > > > -- > Google Germany GmbH, ABC-Str. 19, 20354 Hamburg > Registergericht und -nummer: Hamburg, HRB 86891, Sitz der Gesellschaft: > Hamburg > Geschäftsführer: Paul Manicle, Halimah DeLaine Prado _______________________________________________ coreboot mailing list -- [email protected] To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected]
