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Rick, It's just simply not a matter of helping law enforcement to apprehend criminals. It is quite simply how much freedom are we as Americans willing to give up ?? What else are you willing to give up- seriously. I'm very serious about what freedoms are "taken" from me. There are businesses folding, airports selling and freedoms being forfeited here. All in the name of National Security. I know I speak for allot of us dependant on aviation, when I ask, would feel different if YOU were told you couldn't drive you car, or go to YOUR job for National Security. Please don't assume that everyone is recreational pilots, many of us are loosing our homes and cars each passing day we are unable to make money. And DO NOT make the mistake of comparing this to a traffic stop.. please.. that is just ridiculous. EVERYONE CONSIDER THIS BEFORE RESPONDING- You asked a question: " Think about this -- Is YOUR "right" to fly more important than allowing these SOB's to VFR their ass right out of here?? " Damn right my FREEDOM every Americans freedom is more important than law enforcement zeal to apprehend criminals. If Law Enforcement expects us to forfeit our rights as citizens than the terrorist have already won, and you are missing what it means to be FREE. I fought for my rights overseas several years ago, I don't ever intend to give them up to you or especially any terrorist !! I support the efforts of law enforcement and am anxiously waiting to fly again, I support the effort even though I resent the means- I am after all a Patriot. -----Original Message----- From: Rick Green [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 2:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [COUPERS] Support your Country!!! ----[Please read http://ercoupers.com/disclaimer.htm before following any advice in this forum.]---- First of all, Every person who has made comments here has the LUXURY of being able to voice their opinion. Unfortunately, six thousand plus people do not!!! Consider that when you complain about your own personal circumstances!!! Second, I too was appalled and disappointed about being grounded. I even suggested here to write your congressman and complain -- and I did just that. I WAS WRONG!!!! No one on this list wants to be grounded - thats a given. We all appreciate our freedom to come and go as we please in the air. But ask anyone who has lost their medical, it's not a right! We grudingly accept that a pilot should not fly when they may be a danger to themselves or others. Guess what, we are all a danger to ourselves and others, at this point in time!!! It's like asking to be able to go Sunday driving through a battlefield. Or in the case of business, like just having to get a pizza delivered thru a hurricane, because the company has to get it there in thirty minutes or less. Both examples are absurd, yes. But very appropriate. There is no reason, not one, that warrants anyone in the air jeapordizing the efforts to capture and contain these terrosists. Anyone who thinks differently should explain to the families of victims, why it is more important that they fly than to catch these bastards. As a member of the Law Enforcement community (who has seen all sorts of slams posted here against us), I became aware of some intelligence information that is supposed to go public today, In fact it has. We are looking for two hundred KNOWN associates of the hijackers. Of these, take special note -- 33 ARE pilots, 4 are student pilots and several are aviation mechanics. And there is substantial evidence that this was not the only planned attacks! Think about this -- Is YOUR "right" to fly more important than allowing these SOB's to VFR their ass right out of here?? Now I hope the majority here can agree that we need to locate and take eliminate these threats before resuming VFR flight. We've got the borders tightened up and even water ports are under surveillance, we NEED to close the air escape route. And, ATC does not need to deal with hundreds of potential targets in the air. Remember, if allowed to escape, they may be the the next wave of attack -- and the next waves will increase in intensity. When the Mall of America is destroyed, DisneyLand poisoned, and truck bombs a weekly occurrence, we may look back at this time as "the good old days." The ONLY way to prevent that is locate and destroy the threat and at this time it means Containment. They will be much easier to find now then a year from now. We are NOT grounded to keep a small plane from crashing into any site, we are grounded to locate murder accomplices! Think of this as a roadblock around a crime scene - inconvenient, yes, but necessary! I predict that when these accomplices are located -- we will be back in the air. Paranoia has set into the mindset of pilots. This comes from lack of information. We all wish the Government wouold tell us what it's doing and why. I think this administration learned it's lesson with disclosing intelligence to the media or public at large. We're not going to see the news cameras waiting on the beaches as our Special Forces lands on the beach again. This only jeapordizes our armed forces in carrying out their mission. Our intelligence community has been SEVERLY curtailed in the last eight years. Then we scream, "where were they?" Congress did not want them dealing in dirty work -- like paying for information from "known criminals."" Just where the hell do you think Criminal intelligence comes from -- church socials??? In the last Administration, KNOWN and CONVICTED Peurto Rican terrorists were released (to buy latino votes for Hillary, hmmm?), We lip serviced taking action against terrorists - yet refused to allow the victim families from the first World Trade Center bombing to sue Osama Bin-Laden. Yes that's right, Janet Reno would not allow these families to sue for wrongful death -- As ALLOWED by law. I'm hopeful that this short sighted thinking will change. We are not seeing the press releases about what's happening, because we do not have the RIGHT to know. Would ANY, and I mean ANY intelligent person among us believe that we should have been told of the Doolittle Raid before the fact??? Anyways... I'm rambling. Point is - Don't blame the FAA, Don't blame the DOT, Don't blame the airlines! We are grounded as a matter of NATIONAL SECURITY!! that's yours, mine and ours!! Support your country -- support the rescue efforts -- support the victims -- and support general aviation!! 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