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Then let's be really "safe" and keep everything on the ground till the
posse
rounds up all the bad guy's.  I guess if the gov. can afford billions to
help the scheduled airlines, it should be able to afford millions to keep
the General Aviation operators solvent now too, right?  There are lots of
bad guy's out there, and there are going to be more.  The pathetic
security
system of the scheduled airlines are the problem.  Not general aviation.
Look at what happened on 11 Sep.  4 flights were able to be overtaken on a
schedule decided by the terrorists.  That's not good security by any
standard, even if we assume that they prevented a handful of others at the
same time, which isn't proven yet.



Rich

-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Green [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 14:30
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [COUPERS] Support your Country!!!


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First of all,  Every person who has made comments here has the LUXURY
of being able to voice their opinion.  Unfortunately, six thousand plus
people do not!!!   Consider that when you complain about your own
personal circumstances!!!

Second, I too was appalled and disappointed about being grounded.  I
even suggested here to write your congressman and complain -- and I did
just that.  I WAS WRONG!!!!

No one on this list wants to be grounded - thats a given.  We all
appreciate our freedom to come and go as we please in the air.  But ask
anyone who has lost their medical, it's not a right!

We grudingly accept that a pilot should not fly when they may be a
danger to themselves or others.  Guess what, we are all a danger to
ourselves and others, at this point in time!!!  It's like asking to be
able to go Sunday driving through a battlefield.  Or in the case of
business, like just having to get a pizza delivered thru a hurricane,
because the company has to get it there in thirty minutes or less.  Both
examples are absurd, yes.  But very appropriate.
There is no reason, not one, that warrants anyone in the air
jeapordizing the efforts to capture and contain these terrosists.
Anyone who thinks differently should explain to the families of victims,
why it is more important that they fly than to catch these bastards.

As a member of the Law Enforcement community (who has seen all sorts of
slams posted here against us), I became aware of some intelligence
information that is supposed to go public today, In fact it has.

We are looking for two hundred KNOWN associates of the hijackers.
Of these, take special note -- 33 ARE pilots, 4 are student pilots and
several are aviation mechanics.  And there is substantial evidence that
this was not the only planned  attacks!

Think about this -- Is YOUR "right" to fly more important than allowing
these SOB's to VFR their ass right out of here??

Now I hope the majority here can agree that we need to locate and take
eliminate these threats before resuming VFR flight.  We've got the
borders tightened up and even water ports are under surveillance, we
NEED to close the air escape route.   And, ATC does not need to deal
with hundreds of potential targets in the air.

Remember, if allowed to escape, they may be the the next wave of attack
-- and the next waves will increase in intensity.

When the Mall of America is destroyed, DisneyLand poisoned, and truck
bombs a weekly occurrence, we may look back at this time as "the good
old days."

The ONLY way to prevent that is locate and destroy the threat and at
this time it means Containment.  They will be much easier to find now
then a year from now.

We are NOT grounded to keep a small plane from crashing into any site,
we are grounded to locate murder accomplices!   Think of this as a
roadblock around a crime scene - inconvenient, yes, but necessary!

I predict that when these accomplices are located -- we will be back in
the air.

Paranoia has set into the mindset of pilots.  This comes from lack of
information.  We all wish the Government wouold tell us what it's doing
and why.  I think this administration learned it's lesson with
disclosing intelligence to the media or public at large.  We're not
going to see the news cameras waiting on the beaches as our Special
Forces lands on the beach again.  This only jeapordizes our armed forces
in carrying out their mission.

Our intelligence community has been SEVERLY curtailed in the last eight
years.  Then we scream, "where were they?"  Congress did not want them
dealing in dirty work -- like paying for information from "known
criminals.""  Just where the hell do you think Criminal intelligence
comes from -- church socials???

In the last Administration, KNOWN and CONVICTED Peurto Rican terrorists
were released (to buy latino votes for Hillary, hmmm?), We lip serviced
taking action against terrorists - yet refused to allow the victim
families from the first World Trade Center bombing to sue Osama
Bin-Laden.  Yes that's right,  Janet Reno would not allow these families
to sue for wrongful death -- As ALLOWED by law.

I'm hopeful that this short sighted thinking will change.
We are not seeing the press releases about what's happening, because we
do not have the RIGHT to know.  Would ANY, and I mean ANY intelligent
person among us believe that we should have been told of the Doolittle
Raid before the fact???

Anyways... I'm rambling.

Point is -
Don't blame the FAA, Don't blame the DOT, Don't blame the airlines!

We are grounded as a matter of NATIONAL SECURITY!!
that's yours, mine and ours!!

Support your country -- support the rescue efforts  -- support the
victims -- and support general aviation!!


Rick Green
93686  415 C
South Haven MI

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