Glen,

I just typed this new clause into the proposal. Does it cover the point
you
brought up adequately?

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Aircraft certification

Aircraft with annual inspections signed-off by a Pilot TSM will remain
fully
certificated but may not be used for compensation or hire until returned
to
service after an annual or 100 hour inspection by an IA or TR A&P.  TR A&P
maintained aircraft will remain fully certificated and may be used for
compensation or hire.
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Glen Ward wrote:
> 
> Ed, My computer's time was off.  I am surprised that you are proposing
to
> have the planes remain fully certificated.  You are saying then that
people
> could use them for commercial things?  Obviously this is quite limited
in an
> Ercoupe but I think that the mechanics and FAA will never have it that
way.
> I don't think that it is a good idea to allow them to be used for that.
> Flight schools and such need to have their planes maintained by regular
> licensed mechanics, I believe.  As far as the old planes go, this is
> especially true of the Cubs, Taylorcraft, and Champs many of which are
still
> used as tailwheel checkout planes, not to mention that somebody will try
and
> get C150's approved for owner maintenance.  I am not being a meany about
the
> proposal, it's just that I am sure the FAA would have some concerns
about
> that too.  I understand that basically the pilot would be a licensed
> mechanic, for that plane, but I am doubtful that even after a training
> program they will measure up to a regular AP when it comes to a plane
that
> may fly a lot of hours and get beat up pretty well.  I am just saying,
it
> might be best to change the plane's certification regarding commercial
and
> flight instruction.  Newbies need to be able to trust the plane and I am
not
> sure this will be the best thing for them.  GW
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ed Burkhead <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Glen Ward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Friday, June 02, 2000 9:38 PM
> Subject: Re: [COUPERS] FAA owner/pilot maintenance certification
proposal
> 
> >Quick question: What does your computer's clock say right now.
> >
> >The message you just sent to me and the list, one came to me with the
time
> of
> >7:57 p.m., the one that arrive 30 seconds earlier had the time of 8:15
p.m.
> >
> >Which is the list server and which is your computer?
> >
> >Glen Ward wrote:
> >>
> >> Don't forget to adddres what happens to the AD system.  I don't think
it
> was
> >> in your proposal but maybe I missed it.  If they stick the plane into
an
> >> experimental-like category then perhaps they will give up on ADs
> entirely.
> >> After all, if the Canadian proposal is as liberal as it sounds, then
> there
> >> would be no point in issuing ADs or their Canadian equivalent since
they
> >> might not be able to make them mandatory, and they sure couldn't
enforce
> >> them even if they were.  It is bad enough as it is, with mechanics
> signing
> >> off planes with outstanding ADs - it could become a lost cause, and
that
> >> might not be good on a plane that will be 60 or 70 years old!  I like
the
> >> idea of owner maintenance but I think of some people who won't spend
$350
> a
> >> year including the annual, now they are just going to really be
flying
> some
> >> trash, which will not help the insurance situation when they wreck.
I
> >> wonder if the ever tighter insurance companies will even insure an
> >> owner-maintained factory plane when they first switch the system
over.
> Glen
> >> Ward
> >
> >--
> >Ed Burkhead
> >Peoria, Ill.
> >Ercoupe N3802H, 415-D
> >
> >Never open an attachment with a ".exe" or ".com" or ".vbs" suffix.
> >To be safe, turn off Microsoft's Visual Basic Macro execution option.
> >Consider not using Outlook for mail - lots of viruses target its
security
> >flaws.

-- 
Ed Burkhead
Peoria, Ill.
Ercoupe N3802H, 415-D

Never open an attachment with a ".exe" or ".com" or ".vbs" suffix.
To be safe, turn off Microsoft's Visual Basic Macro execution option.
Consider not using Outlook for mail - lots of viruses target its security
flaws.
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