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> On the other hand, lifting off at the speed of best rate of climb, with
a 
> normal nose low ground
>  roll, should result in your best chance of clearing an obstacle

I think Greg's position has merit.  The reason is that the plane is
getting a 
"free ride" from staying on the ground longer (same argument holds for
flying 
in ground effect) allowing it to build more kenetic energy, which is then 
converted into climb capability.  By lifting off at Vy and holding it
there, 
you get the best steady state rate of climb, but pulling off at 85 or 90
MPH 
allows you to convert that extra KE into altitude.  As airspeed bleeds off
to 
Vy, you want to transition to a climb at Vx.  After it's all said and
done, I 
wonder how significant the difference will be?

(BTW, for obstacle clearance, you want best ANGLE, not best rate...)

John

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