Ron! Chill out, guy. These folks are not out to do you any harm. Anyway, a previous post mentioned that there ARE some 'coupes certified in the EXPERIMENTAL catagory. I tried to search the Landings database, but couldn't get anything without an owner's name or a N number. Anyone care to help?
Rick Nelson ----- Original Message ----- From: Ron Burke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Douglas Stierman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Coupers Mail List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, November 12, 1999 2:24 PM Subject: Re: Subaru powered 'coupe? > If we could do what you are thinking don't you think we would have done > it... > Or do you think we like the FAA "hassle" > all I can say is geezzzz...... > > If you want a expermental, go build one.. > > The FAA is not going to let you decertfy a certified aircraft to get around > their regs... > I for one like it that way, My Ercoupe is 53 years old and is in GREAT > SHAPE... how many > 1946 Cars are still running around in great shape? There is a reason for > that. > > Some one on the list tried the Subru and gave up. Trying to get a STC for a > un-certified engine is not > going to happen. Again I like it that way.... > > Just so you know, I do not work for the FAA. > > If you are rebuilding a basket case, it is going to cost you a LOT of time > and money.... > There are a number of licensed coupes in flying condition for under > $13,000... > > You answered your own question for $13,500 you can get a already flying coup > in good condition. > heck I only have 14k into mine and it is worth a bit more than that... and I > fly more than 200 hours a year. > So what have you saved?????? > > As to your last statement > > "Any information and ENCOURAGEMENT are invited, discouraging remarks or > advice against will be read, but probably not heeded." > > You are just a FOOL, but I hope I did intain you and the group. > > I will post this to the group in a effort to get it into the archives, this > way other mis-guided fools can at least find > this information before buying a $3500 planter for the front yard. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Douglas Stierman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, November 12, 1999 10:24 AM > Subject: Subaru powered 'coupe? > > > > Hello all, > > > > I am considering building my "basket case" Ercoupe with a Subaru > > Engine. I know that I will have to de-certify the airplane into the > > Experimental category and that's fine with me. I don't have any dreams of > > obtaining/developing an STC or ever re-certifing the plane. I simply want > > to build my 'coupe the way I want without alot of hassle. Since I am not > > an A & P, I figure this is the way to do it. I am also considering > > covering the wings with 6061T6 and using AVEX Rivets for the covering. > > Zenair actually has a certified plane which uses these materials as well > > as their Zodiac kit planes. I figure that I can get a coupe which might > > have never flied again back up in the air without breaking my budget in > > A&P labor and FAA paperwork. Also, I'd be able to do my own work...and > > engine overhauls on the Soob would only be ~$1,000. I had originally > > planned on constructing an exp. plane, but I think that this "hybrid > > 'coupe" project will take less time(already mostly contructed) and cost a > > bit less while still allowing me to do all the work myself and take a few > > liberties without radical;ly changing the design or requiring costly STCs. > > > > Does anyone know the procedure for de-certifing the plane? I > > assume once I start work on it, I'll have to log my work as required for a > > homebuilt. I plan on sticking mostly to Fred's design except for the > > Engine/Prop(Subaru with 3 blade carbon fiber prop) and the Instrument > > panel/Seats/and baggage compartment. None of my mods should affect the > > weight & balance. Most of the stuff has STCd equvalants in certified > > 'coupes. > > > > I know that I'll probably get a lot of discouraging replies from > > 'coupe purists who will warn me about de-certifing and spoiling my re-sale > > value. But ....what is the resale value of a $3500 basket case with no > > engine or prop? It would probably cost me $20K to get this thing flying > > again as a certified, but for around $10K I could have an experimental > > 'coupe AND do my own work on it PLUS $1000 engine overhauls. If I decide > > to go foward with this, I'll start a web page documenting my work. Any > > information and ENCOURAGEMENT are invited, discouraging remarks or advice > > against will be read, but probably not heeded. > > > > Thanks for reading this... > > > > > > Doug Stierman > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > >
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