If we could do what you are thinking don't you think we would have done
it...
Or do you think we like the FAA "hassle"
all I can say is geezzzz......

If you want a expermental, go build one..

The FAA is not going to let you decertfy a certified aircraft to get
around
their regs...
I for one like it that way, My Ercoupe is 53 years old and is in GREAT
SHAPE... how many
1946 Cars are still running around in great shape?  There is a reason for
that.

Some one on the list tried the Subru and gave up.  Trying to get a STC for
a
un-certified engine is not
going to happen.  Again I like it that way....

Just so you know, I do not work for the FAA.

If you are rebuilding a basket case, it is going to cost you a LOT of time
and money....
There are a number of licensed coupes in flying condition for under
$13,000...

You answered your own question for $13,500 you can get a already flying
coup
in good condition.
heck I only have 14k into mine and it is worth a bit more than that... and
I
fly more than 200 hours a year.
So what have you saved??????

As to your last statement

"Any information and ENCOURAGEMENT are invited, discouraging remarks or
advice against will be read, but probably not heeded."

You are just a FOOL, but I hope I did intain you and the group.

I will post this to the group in a effort to get it into the archives,
this
way other mis-guided fools can at least find
this information before buying a $3500 planter for the front yard.



----- Original Message -----
From: Douglas Stierman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, November 12, 1999 10:24 AM
Subject: Subaru powered 'coupe?


> Hello all,
>
> I am considering building my "basket case" Ercoupe with a Subaru
> Engine. I know that I will have to de-certify the airplane into the
> Experimental category and that's fine with me. I don't have any dreams
of
> obtaining/developing an STC or ever re-certifing the plane. I simply
want
> to build my 'coupe the way I want without alot of hassle. Since I am not
> an A & P, I figure this is the way to do it. I am also considering
> covering the wings with 6061T6 and using AVEX Rivets for the covering.
> Zenair actually has a certified plane which uses these materials as well
> as their Zodiac kit planes. I figure that I can get a coupe which might
> have never flied again back up in the air without breaking my budget in
> A&P labor and FAA paperwork. Also, I'd be able to do my own work...and
> engine overhauls on the Soob would only be ~$1,000. I had originally
> planned on constructing an exp. plane, but I think that this "hybrid
> 'coupe" project will take less time(already mostly contructed) and cost
a
> bit less while still allowing me to do all the work myself and take a
few
> liberties without radical;ly changing the design or requiring costly
STCs.
>
> Does anyone know the procedure for de-certifing the plane? I
> assume once I start work on it, I'll have to log my work as required for
a
> homebuilt. I plan on sticking mostly to Fred's design except for the
> Engine/Prop(Subaru with 3 blade carbon fiber prop) and the Instrument
> panel/Seats/and baggage compartment. None of my mods should affect the
> weight & balance. Most of the stuff has STCd equvalants in certified
> 'coupes.
>
> I know that I'll probably get a lot of discouraging replies from
> 'coupe purists who will warn me about de-certifing and spoiling my
re-sale
> value. But ....what is the resale value of a $3500 basket case with no
> engine or prop? It would probably cost me $20K to get this thing flying
> again as a certified, but for around $10K I could have an experimental
> 'coupe AND do my own work on it PLUS $1000 engine overhauls. If I decide
> to go foward with this, I'll start a web page documenting my work. Any
> information and ENCOURAGEMENT are invited, discouraging remarks or
advice
> against will be read, but probably not heeded.
>
> Thanks for reading this...
>
>
> Doug Stierman
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>

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