Is it wrong to create *an* entity, not *the* entity, that can take
some action? Many open source projects have similar support to help
them pay for web servers and the like. I'm sure this idea has even
been mentioned earlier in the week. I guess that some people might see
the new thing as the lightning rod - which could be good or bad.

Then, once there are some processes (e.g. how do I get a password)
they can be documented and things can be very distributed and self-
starting, except for those few times when we need to renew a domain
name or whatever. For a year or two, maybe we just ask someone to take
point (Alex is that person today), but make sure that a few people are
able to pull the trigger. If there are gatekeepers, they should be
able to anoint other gatekeepers.

We were borrowing a domain name from someone locally (for a user
group) here and he let it lapse, so for a week we were trying to call
that guy and begging him to renew. I'd hate to see that happen on a
global level.

Peace,
Ryan Price
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On Feb 19, 11:32 am, Alex Hillman <dangerouslyawes...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> I'll reiterate the next steps I'd like to tackle:
>
> *I'd really like the next discussion on this list* to help find a more
> sustainable mechanism for allowing people to contribute to the website fund
> without raising money that we simply don't need. Right now the fund raise is
> spread out over ~20 people. That de-risked the initial purchase, and let
> this happen at all. In the next phase, I think the objective should be to
> spread the fund wider and, as Chris Messina said, put the focus on
> individual supporters instead of business supporters, giving everyone more
> equal access to the resources that come with having the domain.
>
> /ah
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> On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 11:23 AM, TCS <c...@thecreativespace.ca> wrote:
> > yes - all done!  What's next on coworking.com?
>
> > On 2010-02-19, at 11:08 AM, Tony Bacigalupo wrote:
>
> > Alex, thanks for rocking this and documenting it as you go. This is a good
> > start and I look forward to this evolving in a healthy way.
>
> > Let's move the discussion on w/Drupal vs WP vs Emacs vs Yahoo Store vs
> > Zombo.com off-list, yes?
>
> > On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 10:48 AM, TCS <c...@thecreativespace.ca> wrote:
>
> >> Yep.  Both platforms have come a long way.  We are impressed with each and
> >> try to fit the framework with the clint needs.  Thus far for CMS we're 
> >> about
> >> 80/20 between Drupal instals and WP.  
> >> http://www.symfony-project.org/looksgood too.
> >> peace,
> >> Chad
>
> >> On 2010-02-19, at 10:25 AM, Mike Schinkel wrote:
>
> >> On Feb 19, 2010, at 9:25 AM, TCS wrote:
>
> >> We realize there's more users - I wasn't counting users, rather
> >> considering the overall expandability and multifunctional use of a website
> >> tool.  It's not the easiest to use as a developer, but once you get it, it
> >> is robust!  Just thinking if you want to create a community environment and
> >> build on a more robust tool, Drupal's great.  We love Wordpress too!
>
> >> On Feb 19, 2010, at 9:17 AM, Patrick wrote:
>
> >> Wordpress is a blog platform that can be used as a CMS, not an actual
> >> CMS ;)
>
> >> Just teasing.
>
> >> Yes mine was some as light hearted teasing as well. Glad you took it as as
> >> such. :)
>
> >> Still, "many a truth said in jest" as they say. I really have seen people
> >> have a lot more difficulty getting Drupal projects completed vs. WordPress
> >> projects and then training users to understand Drupal is yet another
> >> complication where it's pretty easy for users to get WordPress.  As way to
> >> explain and a rule of thumb I tell prospective users that the minimum
> >> WordPress project cost they'd pay a local consultant for a professional
> >> design and a bit of custom functionality developed in PHP and/or jQuery is
> >> about $2500 vs. the minimum Drupal is around $10k.  Drupal typically makes
> >> the first 85% easy but the last 15% can be very difficult (and hence time
> >> consuming/expensive.)
>
> >> FWIW a year ago WordPress didn't have the feature set needed in
> >> core+plugins but does now.  A partner and I are actually launching a
> >> conference in Atlanta called "The Business of WordPress" to highlight how 
> >> to
> >> use it for local businesses in part because I want them to see how 
> >> effective
> >> it is now.
>
> >> -Mike Schinkel
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> >>http://ignitionalley.com
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