And I apologize if I came off as flippant...but we don't add people to these groups, they add themselves. And, well, I've been 'admin' (and there are multiple, but I'm the only one that ever goes in and approves messages) for nearly 5 years now - and I run a company and have a life and I've never been paid (In fact, I've put tens of thousands of my own money into this movement). So if I get a little annoyed that someone who ADDED THEMSELVES MANUALLY to this group won't remove themselves in the same fashion, I think I'm justified.
But go ahead and anyone take over the admin of this list from me that wants to clean out spam daily, send emails to people who aren't spammers, but are big self-promoters that they need to change their message before approved EVERY DAY, approve people asap in whatever time zone you are in multiple times every day so they don't resend and resend and resend the same message until there are dozens in the cue. And you'll do it quietly and nobody will know you have dedicated yourself to this until...one day you say to one person that they can remove themselves thank you very much. I really don't need justification for asking someone to DIY and figure it out themselves. It isn't a simple 2 second thing for me to go and remove someone from the list (google makes this complicated). For them, it is a simple CLICK. One. Single. Click. Tara On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 5:24 AM, Jeannine <flexkantoorkame...@gmail.com>wrote: > Hiya, Spike, > > I think that's true, When I started on listservs nobody could do > anything to their account without a helpful admin. Mostly the mods > couldn't do diddly when it came to accounts. We couldn't change > notification settings without an act of Congress, either -- the notion > of setting your account so that you didn't get email notification or > only got it once a day was not an option that came up. > > Though my recollection is also that back in the day, by the time it > reached the point that somebody posted a "get me off this list" it was > more in the nature of a protest action, having sent multiple emails or > PMs to the admins who did not respond. But thank heaven for the do it > yourself era, it has saved me a lot of time. > > I also think that as these things have changed, our notions of what is > and is not private has changed, as has (as you rightly say) what is > and is not the role of an admin. I know a number of people who > consider offlist contact annoying and/or inconvenient. Particularly > the ones whose problem is that they are getting too many emails. I > contacted a woman to let her know that she could either turn them off > altogether or just get one a day or one a week or whatever she liked > and was the recipient of a rather unpleasant return email suggesting > my IQ was lower than room temperature as I responded to her problem of > too many emails by sending her an email. She was not incorrect, I > just didn't see it that way. > > I expect that in this case, somebody not-an-admin saw the problem > first and suggested a solution in the easiest way possible -- by > responding as the request was made. It's a worldwide list and not > everybody is in the same time zone. Sometimes you have to wait for > the nearest admin to wake up. :-) > > Happily, unhelpful ridicule has not been much of a problem on this > particular list, the couple times it has come up it has been pretty > effectively sat upon thus far. The biggest problem in my mind is > autoresponders when folks go on vacation and they are mildly annoying > and mostly sort of funny. > > Laters, > > Jeannine > On Feb 17, 5:31 am, "Chris Foote (Spike)" <sp...@tenbus.co.uk> wrote: > > Interesting subtle change in the way that listervs have been run over > > the years. > > > > In the past when a subscriber to a list sent a "please get me off this > > list" one of the admins would deal with it and contact the individual > > *off list*. > > > > These days it seems to be the norm to send messages to people and all > > the other subscribers telling them how to do it themselves. On another > > Google Group (that I will not mention) the potential subscriber was > > subjected to a torrent of unhelpful ridicule from other members. > > > > This Google Group has over 3000 subscribers and five admins - could one > > of them not have contacted the person concerned - off-list - and dealt > > with it privately. > > > > This change in the way that "list moms" see their role does not confine > > itself to this Google Group, I'm seeing it more and more in other places > > too. > > > > Spike > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tara Hunt wrote: > > > Sheila, > > > > > This is google groups...you can remove yourself...please see the > > > signature line below every email. > > > > > On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 5:13 PM, sheila sookram > > > <sheilasookram122...@yahoo.com <mailto:sheilasookram122...@yahoo.com>> > > > wrote: > > > > > please remove this email from this group.... it is overloading my > > > account... > > > Sheila > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Coworking" group. > To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. > > -- Tara Hunt CEO & CoFounder http://www.shwowp.com http://www.twitter.com/missrogue phone: 514-679-2951 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Coworking" group. 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