Dear Robert, All,
To my understanding the basic difference of an archival institution, in
contrast to a more general notion of an archive as a collection of
papers etc, is the mandate to safeguard records of another institution
about their actions. This is expressed in keeping records completely and
without gaps in an order reflecting the sequence of actions. This is
also attempted when recovering such material from the past.
This creates a different focus of the relation of the structure of the
collection and that of its creation events, and of the inheritance of
metadata in the collection hierarchy and the action hierarchy.
Otherwise, I think CRM is very adequate, and the above should not be
difficult to be modeled.
Best,
Martin
On 1/27/2020 7:40 PM, Robert Sanderson wrote:
Yes indeed! I was very happy to see your emails about this in the past 😊
Our lead archivist is also progressive and looking to shift the
attention of her staff to be more valuable for discovery and access of
digitized representations of the physical objects, but culture is the
hard part rather than technology of course.
Rob
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The Portuguese National Archives are working on a new data model for
archival description with CIDOC-CRM… I guess Portuguese archivists are
coming to realize that it is indeed an improvement to the archival
practices :-)
We presented the project at the 2018 annual conference in Herklion:
http://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.2594705
On 27/01/20 16:44, Robert Sanderson wrote:
I actually think that traditional archiving practices /are/ a
different “sect” … or less controversially: the non-digital
archival practices of the North American tradition do not map
cleanly into a more precise ontology such as CIDOC-CRM that is
designed for expressing knowledge about specifics, rather than the
broad generalities of “collection description”.
In particular the distinction between the objects as managed
physical things and the objects as the members of an intellectual
hierarchy is very important in CRM (IMO) and very complicated to
tease apart from current data in archival systems.
I believe that trying to force the very general archival patterns
into a very specific CRM model would meet a lot of resistance from
many institutions, and even if we think that would be an
improvement to the archival practices, the archivists need to come
to that realization for themselves.
Rob
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On 1/27/2020 10:23 AM, Dan Matei wrote:
https://www.ica.org/standards/RiC/ontology.html
Great :-(
Dan
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Well, they write:
"adding suggestions of mappings (in rico:closeTo) and OWL
equivalences between some classes or properties and components in
other models (among which - this is not an exhaustive list-
CIDOC-CRM, IFLA-LRM, PREMIS, PROV-O, and Schema.org)"
.....
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