Dear all, thanks for the proposal Martin. I think it should have some relation to P3 - probably it is a subproperty? Especially the examples really make it look like a subproperty to P3.
Best, Mark 2018-09-19 22:09 GMT+02:00 Martin Doerr <mar...@ics.forth.gr>: > Here my scope note: > > Pxxx has symbolic content > > Domain: E90 Symbolic Object > <#m_-5231204896452987831__E2_Temporal_Entity> > > Range: E62 String > > Quantification: many to many (0,n:0,n) ?? > > > > Scope note: This property associates an instance of E90 Symbolic > Object with a complete, identifying representation of its content in the > form of an instance of E62 String. This property only applies to instances > of E90 Symbolic Object that can be represented completely in this form. The > representation may be more specific than the symbolic level defining the > identity condition of the represented. This depends on the type of the > symbolic object represented. For instance, if a name has type "Modern Greek > character sequence", it may be represented in a loss-free Latin > transcription, meaning however the sequence of Greek letters. As another > example, if the represented object has type "English words sequence", > American English or British English spelling variants may be chosen to > represent the English word "colour" without defining a different symbolic > object. If a name has type "European traditional name", no particular > string may define its content. > > > > Examples: > > > * The materials description (E33) of the painting (E22) _*has symbolic > content*_ “Oil, French Watercolors on Paper, Graphite and Ink on Canvas, > with an Oak frame.” > > * The title (E35) of Einstein’s 1915 text (E73) _*has symbolic content*_ > “Relativity, the Special and the General Theory“ > > * The story of Little Red Riding Hood (E33) _*has symbolic content*_ > “Once upon a time there lived in a certain village …” > * The inscription (E34) on Rijksmuseum object SK-A-1601 (E22) _*has > symbolic content*_ “B” > > > > > On 9/17/2018 10:38 PM, Robert Sanderson wrote: > > > > Examples I have a lot of! > > > > > > How about … > > > > * The materials description (E33) of the painting (E22) _*has symbolic > content*_ “Oil, French Watercolors on Paper, Graphite and Ink on Canvas, > with an Oak frame.” > > * The title (E35) of Einstein’s 1915 text (E73) _*has symbolic content*_ > “Relativity, the Special and the General Theory“ > > * The story of Little Red Riding Hood (E33) _*has symbolic content*_ > “Once upon a time there lived in a certain village …” > > * The inscription (E34) on Rijksmuseum object SK-A-1601 (E22) _*has > symbolic content*_ “B” > > > > Rob > > > > > > *From: *Crm-sig <crm-sig-boun...@ics.forth.gr> > <crm-sig-boun...@ics.forth.gr> on behalf of Richard Light > <rich...@light.demon.co.uk> <rich...@light.demon.co.uk> > *Date: *Monday, September 17, 2018 at 12:09 PM > *To: *"crm-sig@ics.forth.gr" <crm-sig@ics.forth.gr> <crm-sig@ics.forth.gr> > <crm-sig@ics.forth.gr> > *Subject: *Re: [Crm-sig] NEW ISSUE: symbolic content > > > > Rob, > > Absolutely. So now we need to draft the text to describe this property, > in suitably generalized terms, for the CRM, and then update our RDF > documentation to say exactly how it is to be used in that context. Perhaps > we should start with some examples? > > Richard > > On 17/09/2018 19:49, Robert Sanderson wrote: > > > > Thank you, Martin! I think this is exactly what we need ☺ > > > > Rob > > > > *From: *Crm-sig <crm-sig-boun...@ics.forth.gr> > <crm-sig-boun...@ics.forth.gr> on behalf of Martin Doerr > <mar...@ics.forth.gr> <mar...@ics.forth.gr> > *Date: *Friday, September 14, 2018 at 10:23 AM > *To: *"crm-sig@ics.forth.gr" <crm-sig@ics.forth.gr> <crm-sig@ics.forth.gr> > <crm-sig@ics.forth.gr> > *Subject: *[Crm-sig] NEW ISSUE: symbolic content > > > > Dear All, > > I propose a new property of Symbolic Object : "has symbolic content : > String" , in RDFS subproperty of rdfs:value. > > The "level of symbolic specificity" by which the String is interpreted > should conform to the type of the Symbolic Object. > > Best, > > Martin > > On 9/14/2018 7:54 PM, Richard Light wrote: > > > > On 13/09/2018 20:57, Martin Doerr wrote: > > Dear Richard, > > > > > > What we need, to my opinion, is a property of Symbolic Object we may call > it "has symbolic content" or "has symbolic content inline" or anything > better, which defines that the symbolic content *is identical to* the > Literal, *abstracted *to the "level of symbolic specificity" that the > Literal implies and that conforms to the identity condition of the Symbolic > Object, i.e., characters of a certain script, or whatever. That would make > the meaning of the "value" unambiguous. > > Again, I'm in complete agreement with this line of thought. One decision > we should make is whether this property forms part of the generic CRM > framework, or if it is to be an implementation-specific property which only > appears in our RDF implementation of the CRM. My instinct is for it to go > into the CRM proper: the treatment of Symbolic Object and its subclasses > would I think be made clearer by the addition of this property. > > For CRM proper! > > OK: perhaps we should start a new issue to address this? > > > > > -- > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > Dr. Martin Doerr | Vox:+30(2810)391625 | > > Research Director | Fax:+30(2810)391638 | > > | Email: mar...@ics.forth.gr | > > | > > Center for Cultural Informatics | > > Information Systems Laboratory | > > Institute of Computer Science | > > Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas (FORTH) | > > | > > N.Plastira 100, Vassilika Vouton, | > > GR70013 Heraklion,Crete,Greece | > > | > > Web-site: http://www.ics.forth.gr/isl | > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Crm-sig mailing list > > Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr > > http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig > > > > -- > *Richard Light* > > > _______________________________________________ > Crm-sig mailing > listCrm-sig@ics.forth.grhttp://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig > > > -- > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Dr. Martin Doerr | Vox:+30(2810)391625 | > Research Director | Fax:+30(2810)391638 | > | Email: mar...@ics.forth.gr | > | > Center for Cultural Informatics | > Information Systems Laboratory | > Institute of Computer Science | > Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas (FORTH) | > | > N.Plastira 100, Vassilika Vouton, | > GR70013 Heraklion,Crete,Greece | > | > Web-site: http://www.ics.forth.gr/isl | > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > > _______________________________________________ > Crm-sig mailing list > Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr > http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig > >
