Thanks Thanasis.  Yes, there's various dimensions that are associated with
non-Things, and I agree that Place is particularly easy to justify.

Place:  Area. The county of Los Angeles has a dimension of 4751 square
miles. If the place is approximate, then the radius of a centroid would be
an obvious dimension to record, or height/width for bounding box defined
Places.
Time-Span:  Duration is already a property of a Time-Span that refers to a
dimension (P191). This could then be a subproperty of P43, or deprecated in
favor of a classification on the Dimension.

Temporal Entity and Spacetime Volume are a bit strange in relation to
Time-Span. Does the Period have the duration or the Time-Span, or both?
What if they're different
Conversely Dimensions seem like they should not have Dimensions.

Rob


On Wed, Sep 9, 2020 at 10:33 AM Athanasios Velios <thana...@softicon.co.uk>
wrote:

> Good point, but it seems to me that being able to measure a Place is
> pretty important. Otherwise we have to measure through the physical
> object/site reference or the declarative space as part of a conceptual
> thing.
>
> Thanasis
>
>
>
> On 09/09/2020 13:39, Robert Sanderson wrote:
> >
> > Dear all,
> >
> > I believe that there is an inconsistency in the model for measurements
> > and dimensions.
> >
> > E54 Dimensions are associated directly with E70 Things using P43 has
> > dimension.  So not every class can have dimensions, only those that are
> > descendents of E70.
> >
> > However E16 Measurement's property P39 measured has a range of E1 CRM
> > Entity, meaning that while (for example) an E53 Place cannot have a
> > dimension, it can be measured to have a dimension. This seems
> > inconsistent that an entity that cannot have dimensions can still be
> > measured.
> >
> > I propose that the range of P39 measured be changed to E70 Thing to
> > resolve this inconsistency.
> >
> > I would also be okay with the other direction by changing the domain of
> > P43 has dimension to be E1 CRM Entity, however that seems like a much
> > more significant change, and would result in quite strange side effects
> > such as Dimensions having Dimensions.
> >
> > Rob
> >
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