Re: [Crm-sig] Issue:530 Bias in the CRM

Mon, 08 Mar 2021 23:05:00 -0800 

Dear Thanasis, all,
I would be happy to join the discussion. Another useful reading other than the already cited ones, is ["Cataloguing Culture: Legacies of Colonialism in Museum Documentation”](https://www.ubcpress.ca/cataloguing-culture) by Hannah Turner.
Regarding the name and the scope of the issue: should we focus on data structure (I see the title of the issue is "bias in data structure") or specifically on ontologies and CRM? While I do very much believe that data structure is an enormously important topic to discuss, it is an extremely large subject, and entail a larger series of problems which do derive from the informational foundation, the concept of structure itself, the recorded information, as well as disciplinary inheritance in the chosen subject matter.
I second rob proposing to focus on the problem of the ontology and the process of documentation/development. I would add that we should include some point about CRM as system of thought as well as the problem of formalisation. 


* Implementations and Instances of the Ontology
-- I think these are useful as second-order evidence, but that we should not be too involved or prescriptive.
I would include the topic, as to make clear the diversity in implementation (use of terminological systems as well as the use of the concept of controlled terminology itself), avoiding indeed the prescriptive stance. 


Best,

Nicola


P.s. Great initiative :-)



On 8 Mar 2021, at 21:33, Athanasios Velios via Crm-sig wrote:
Thank you Erin. We are using Zotero already for the CRM so this is a good idea. I can check if a new folder can be created for issue 530. 

T.


On 08/03/2021 19:01, Erin Canning wrote:
I would also like to be involved in this discussion, please! I too have a reading list on the subject that I would be happy to share; I have been meaning to pull everything into a Zotero library and this is a good excuse to do so. For a single article to start things off, I would recommend Miriam Posner's "What's Next: The Radical, Unrealized Potential of the Digital Humanities" <https://dhdebates.gc.cuny.edu/read/untitled/section/a22aca14-0eb0-4cc6-a622-6fee9428a357> as an interesting read. 

Best,
Erin


Erin Canning

canni...@uoguelph.ca<mailto:canni...@uoguelph.ca>
Ontology Systems Analyst, LINCS
https://lincsproject.ca/<https://lincsproject.ca/>


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Fantastic! Thank you for sharing and you are first in the list.

For the rest in list and if you did not attend today's sessions,
following discussion for issue 530, a working group is being formed to discuss bias in the CRM. Please let me know if you wish to contribute to 
the discussion.

All the best,

Thanasis

On 08/03/2021 17:17, Anaïs Guillem wrote:

Dear Thanasis, all,
Some digital humanists work and publish on this question of bias in
digital humanities: here is an example of very a propos publication:

https://journals.dartmouth.edu/cgi-bin/WebObjects/Journals.woa/xmlpage/4/article/425

<https://journals.dartmouth.edu/cgi-bin/WebObjects/Journals.woa/xmlpage/4/article/425>

<https://journals.dartmouth.edu/cgi-bin/WebObjects/Journals.woa/xmlpage/4/article/425

<https://journals.dartmouth.edu/cgi-bin/WebObjects/Journals.woa/xmlpage/4/article/425>>


I gathered myself bibliography about decolonizing knowledge and
methodology especially in digital project. I could join the discussion 
of your working group if you want.
Cheers,
Anais
Le mer. 3 mars 2021 à 14:58, Athanasios Velios <thana...@softicon.co.uk <mailto:thana...@softicon.co.uk <mailto:thana...@softicon.co.uk>>> a écrit : 

     Dear all,
     In version 7.1 a short but important sentence has been added at the end 
     of the scope section:
     "Discussions on the types of bias present in the CIDOC CRM are in 
     progress within the CIDOC CRM community."

     Issue 530 is used to track the discussions here:

    http://cidoc-crm.org/Issue/ID-530-bias-in-data-structure

<http://cidoc-crm.org/Issue/ID-530-bias-in-data-structure>

     <http://cidoc-crm.org/Issue/ID-530-bias-in-data-structure

<http://cidoc-crm.org/Issue/ID-530-bias-in-data-structure>>
     It is important to engage in this discussion so that we first understand      the issues around bias and privileged positions and then how these may 
     or may not impact the development of the model.
     We will then be more confident in making a more complete statement is      future versions. Issue 530 is scheduled to be discussed at the community 
     session of the forthcoming meeting.

     Looking forward to it.

     All the best,

     Thanasis
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