Dear all, CHIN also supports this initiative and would like to contribute to it. It may be one of my colleagues or one of our partners, but I would appreciate being kept informed.
@Achille, I think you wanted to answer the issue regarding the translation working group. So I added your name to the list. :) Best regards, Philippe Le mer. 10 mars 2021 à 04:29, Achille Felicetti via Crm-sig < crm-sig@ics.forth.gr> a écrit : > Dear George, all > > For the Italian translation, you can certainly count on me as well :-)) > > Ciao, > A. > > Il giorno 10 mar 2021, alle ore 09:49, George Bruseker via Crm-sig < > crm-sig@ics.forth.gr> ha scritto: > > Dear all, > > I, too, fully support this important initiative and hope to learn much > from colleagues in the discussion. The opening discussion was already very > fruitful to start us off at looking at fundamental issues to take into > account in the method of creating ontologies. > > The shared zotero library suggestion is a great one. > > Best, > > George > > On Tue, Mar 9, 2021 at 11:41 AM Athanasios Velios via Crm-sig < > crm-sig@ics.forth.gr> wrote: > >> Indeed the intention is to focus on ontological level for the CRM and >> not to expand to data structures, schemas etc. The issue label does not >> represent the issue exactly, but it can act as a reminder. I will add >> the reference to the library. >> >> T. >> >> On 09/03/2021 06:58, Nicola Carboni wrote: >> > Dear Thanasis, all, >> > >> > I would be happy to join the discussion. Another useful reading other >> > than the already cited ones, is "Cataloguing Culture: Legacies of >> > Colonialism in Museum Documentation” >> > <https://www.ubcpress.ca/cataloguing-culture> by Hannah Turner. >> > >> > Regarding the name and the scope of the issue: should we focus on data >> > structure (I see the title of the issue is "bias in data structure") or >> > specifically on ontologies and CRM? >> > While I do very much believe that data structure is an enormously >> > important topic to discuss, it is an extremely large subject, and >> entail >> > a larger series of problems which do derive from the informational >> > foundation, the concept of structure itself, the recorded information, >> > as well as disciplinary inheritance in the chosen subject matter. >> > >> > I second rob proposing to focus on the problem of the ontology and the >> > process of documentation/development. I would add that we should >> include >> > some point about CRM as system of thought as well as the problem of >> > formalisation. >> > >> > * Implementations and Instances of the Ontology >> > -- I think these are useful as second-order evidence, but that we >> > should not be too involved or prescriptive. >> > >> > I would include the topic, as to make clear the diversity in >> > implementation (use of terminological systems as well as the use of the >> > concept of controlled terminology itself), avoiding indeed the >> > prescriptive stance. >> > >> > Best, >> > >> > Nicola >> > >> > P.s. Great initiative :-) >> > >> > On 8 Mar 2021, at 21:33, Athanasios Velios via Crm-sig wrote: >> > >> > Thank you Erin. We are using Zotero already for the CRM so this is a >> > good idea. I can check if a new folder can be created for issue 530. >> > >> > T. >> > >> > >> > On 08/03/2021 19:01, Erin Canning wrote: >> > >> > I would also like to be involved in this discussion, please! I >> > too have a reading list on the subject that I would be happy to >> > share; I have been meaning to pull everything into a Zotero >> > library and this is a good excuse to do so. For a single article >> > to start things off, I would recommend Miriam Posner's "What's >> > Next: The Radical, Unrealized Potential of the Digital >> > Humanities" >> > < >> https://dhdebates.gc.cuny.edu/read/untitled/section/a22aca14-0eb0-4cc6-a622-6fee9428a357 >> > < >> https://dhdebates.gc.cuny.edu/read/untitled/section/a22aca14-0eb0-4cc6-a622-6fee9428a357 >> >> >> > as an interesting read. >> > >> > Best, >> > Erin >> > >> > >> > Erin Canning >> > >> > canni...@uoguelph.ca<mailto:canni...@uoguelph.ca >> > <mailto:canni...@uoguelph.ca>> >> > Ontology Systems Analyst, LINCS >> > https://lincsproject.ca/ >> > <https://lincsproject.ca/><https://lincsproject.ca/ >> > <https://lincsproject.ca/>> >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > *From:* Crm-sig <crm-sig-boun...@ics.forth.gr> on behalf of >> > Athanasios Velios via Crm-sig <crm-sig@ics.forth.gr> >> > *Sent:* March 8, 2021 12:52 PM >> > *To:* crm-sig <crm-sig@ics.forth.gr> >> > *Subject:* Re: [Crm-sig] Issue:530 Bias in the CRM >> > EXTERNAL EMAIL: >> > >> > Fantastic! Thank you for sharing and you are first in the list. >> > >> > For the rest in list and if you did not attend today's sessions, >> > following discussion for issue 530, a working group is being >> > formed to >> > discuss bias in the CRM. Please let me know if you wish to >> > contribute to >> > the discussion. >> > >> > All the best, >> > >> > Thanasis >> > >> > On 08/03/2021 17:17, Anaïs Guillem wrote: >> > >> > Dear Thanasis, all, >> > Some digital humanists work and publish on this question of >> > bias in >> > digital humanities: here is an example of very a propos >> > publication: >> > >> > >> https://journals.dartmouth.edu/cgi-bin/WebObjects/Journals.woa/xmlpage/4/article/425 >> > < >> https://journals.dartmouth.edu/cgi-bin/WebObjects/Journals.woa/xmlpage/4/article/425 >> > >> > >> > < >> https://journals.dartmouth.edu/cgi-bin/WebObjects/Journals.woa/xmlpage/4/article/425 >> > < >> https://journals.dartmouth.edu/cgi-bin/WebObjects/Journals.woa/xmlpage/4/article/425 >> >> >> > >> > < >> https://journals.dartmouth.edu/cgi-bin/WebObjects/Journals.woa/xmlpage/4/article/425 >> > < >> https://journals.dartmouth.edu/cgi-bin/WebObjects/Journals.woa/xmlpage/4/article/425 >> > >> > >> > < >> https://journals.dartmouth.edu/cgi-bin/WebObjects/Journals.woa/xmlpage/4/article/425 >> > < >> https://journals.dartmouth.edu/cgi-bin/WebObjects/Journals.woa/xmlpage/4/article/425 >> >>> >> > >> > I gathered myself bibliography about decolonizing knowledge >> and >> > methodology especially in digital project. I could join the >> > discussion >> > of your working group if you want. >> > Cheers, >> > Anais >> > >> > Le mer. 3 mars 2021 à 14:58, Athanasios Velios >> > <thana...@softicon.co.uk >> > <mailto:thana...@softicon.co.uk >> > <mailto:thana...@softicon.co.uk> >> > <mailto:thana...@softicon.co.uk >> > <mailto:thana...@softicon.co.uk>>>> a écrit : >> > >> > Dear all, >> > >> > In version 7.1 a short but important sentence has been >> > added at the end >> > of the scope section: >> > >> > "Discussions on the types of bias present in the CIDOC >> > CRM are in >> > progress within the CIDOC CRM community." >> > >> > Issue 530 is used to track the discussions here: >> > >> > http://cidoc-crm.org/Issue/ID-530-bias-in-data-structure >> > <http://cidoc-crm.org/Issue/ID-530-bias-in-data-structure> >> > >> > <http://cidoc-crm.org/Issue/ID-530-bias-in-data-structure >> > <http://cidoc-crm.org/Issue/ID-530-bias-in-data-structure>> >> > >> > >> > <http://cidoc-crm.org/Issue/ID-530-bias-in-data-structure >> > <http://cidoc-crm.org/Issue/ID-530-bias-in-data-structure> >> > >> > <http://cidoc-crm.org/Issue/ID-530-bias-in-data-structure >> > <http://cidoc-crm.org/Issue/ID-530-bias-in-data-structure>>> >> > >> > It is important to engage in this discussion so that >> > we first understand >> > the issues around bias and privileged positions and >> > then how these may >> > or may not impact the development of the model. >> > >> > We will then be more confident in making a more >> > complete statement is >> > future versions. 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