Here's a diff:

* label: 
OLD   O13 triggers (is triggered by)
NEW   O13 triggered (was triggered by)
(in the examples it was already called "triggered" rather than "triggers")

* scope note: 
Part 1 is unchanged:
This property associates an instance of E5 Event that triggers another instance 
of E5 Event with the latter. It identifies the interaction between events: an 
event can activate (trigger) other events in a target system that is in a 
situation of sustained tension, such as a trap or an unstable mountain slope 
giving way to a land slide after a rain or earthquake.

Part 2:
OLD   In that sense the triggering event is interpreted as a cause. However, 
the association of the two events is based on their temporal proximity, with 
the triggering event ending when the triggered event starts.

NEW   The distinction of the triggering event from the triggered one lies in 
their difference of nature: The starting of the triggered event is the result 
of an interaction of constituents with the triggering one, but not a 
continuation of the kinds of processes of the latter. Therefore the triggering 
event must spatiotemporally overlap with the initial time and area of the 
triggered event, and the spreading out of the subsequent phenomena must 
initiate from this area and time and not from multiple independent areas.

* FOL: 
O13(x,y) ⇒ P182(x,y) removed

(Domain, range, quantification, examples are unchanged)


About the changes:

Scope note part 2: If there needs to be an interaction of constituents and thus 
a spatiotemporal overlap, then I am not sure I understand the 1966 flood 
example. There is an overlap between the flood and a book getting wet and an 
overlap between a book being wet as a result and the growing of the mould, but 
is there an obvious interaction between the flood and the mould beginning to 
grow on a book? I am assuming O13 is not meant to be transitive?

What is the initial time and area of "mould growth on books stored in flooded 
library rooms"? Is it obvious that this area is connected and not multiple 
independent areas?

FOL / superproperties: The new scope note suggests P132 "spatiotemporally 
overlaps with", as well as P176 "starts before the start of" (also suggested by 
Thanasis) and  P173i "ends after or with the start of"?

Additional questions:

Scope note part 1: What is the sustained tension in the target system (books 
stored in library rooms) in the 1966 flood example? Or in a house that is 
destroyed by an earthquake or a wildfire?

Examples: Since we want to get rid of fictitious examples, would it make sense 
to replace the earthquake/landslide example? Non-fictitious examples would be 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradise,_California#2018_fire or 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Way_Things_Go (an artistic cascade of 
triggering events)

Best,
Wolfgang


> Am 20.04.2023 um 14:01 schrieb Martin Doerr via Crm-sig 
> <crm-sig@ics.forth.gr>:
> 
> Dear All,
> 
> Here my first go:
> 
> OLD
> 
> O13 triggers (is triggered by)
> 
> Domain:
> E5 Event
> Range:
> E5 Event
> Quantification:
> many to many (0,n:0,n)
> 
> Scope note:
> This property associates an instance of E5 Event that triggers another 
> instance of E5 Event with the latter. It identifies the interaction between 
> events: an event can activate (trigger) other events in a target system that 
> is in a situation of sustained tension, such as a trap or an unstable 
> mountain slope giving way to a land slide after a rain or earthquake. In that 
> sense the triggering event is interpreted as a cause. However, the 
> association of the two events is based on their temporal proximity, with the 
> triggering event ending when the triggered event starts.
> 
> Examples:
>   The earthquake of Parnitha in 1999 triggered the rotational landslide that 
> was observed along the road on the same day. (fictitious)
>   The explosion at the Montserrat massif in 2007 (near Barcelona, Spain) 
> triggered the rock fall event happened on 14 February 2007 (Vilajosana et 
> al., 2008).
>   The 1966 flood in Florence triggered mould growth on books stored in 
> flooded library rooms (Rubinstein, N., 1966)
> In First Order Logic:
> O13(x,y) ⇒ E5(x)
> O13(x,y) ⇒ E5(y)
> O13(x,y) ⇒ P182(x,y)
>  
> NEW
> 
> O13 triggered (was triggered by)
> 
> Domain:
> E5 Event
> Range:
> E5 Event
> Quantification:
> many to many (0,n:0,n)
> 
> Scope note:
> This property associates an instance of E5 Event that triggers another 
> instance of E5 Event with the latter. It identifies the interaction between 
> events: an event can activate (trigger) other events in a target system that 
> is in a situation of sustained tension, such as a trap or an unstable 
> mountain slope giving way to a land slide after a rain or earthquake.
> 
> The distinction of the triggering event from the triggered one lies in their 
> difference of nature: The starting of the triggered event is the result of an 
> interaction of constituents with the triggering one, but not a continuation 
> of the kinds of processes of the latter. Therefore the triggering event must 
> spatiotemporally overlap with the initial time and area of the triggered 
> event, and the spreading out of the subsequent phenomena must initiate from 
> this area and time and not from multiple independent areas.
> 
> Examples:
>   The earthquake of Parnitha in 1999 triggered the rotational landslide that 
> was observed along the road on the same day. (fictitious)
>   The explosion at the Montserrat massif in 2007 (near Barcelona, Spain) 
> triggered the rock fall event happened on 14 February 2007 (Vilajosana et 
> al., 2008).
>   The 1966 flood in Florence triggered mould growth on books stored in 
> flooded library rooms (Rubinstein, N., 1966)
> In First Order Logic:
> O13(x,y) ⇒ E5(x)
> O13(x,y) ⇒ E5(y)
> 
>  Best,
> 
> Martin
> 
> 
> 
> 
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