+1 for dropping GTK3 and staying on 2. I'd like to jump on to JavaFX/SWT as 
soon as they fix some bugs in the web view.

Sorry I missed the earlier note on Qt as well. Something I've been thinking 
about again as I start working with it more and more in the C++ space.

Doug.
________________________________________________________________________
From: Tom Schindl 
<tom.schi...@bestsolution.at<mailto:tom.schi...@bestsolution.at>>
Date: Wed Oct 08 2014 18:16:56 GMT-0400 (EDT)
To: cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org 
<cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org<mailto:cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org>>
Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Limiting GTK versions supported by SWT 
or SWT call for help

hi,

dropping Gtk2 means:
* swing embed is broken when the Gtk-Theme is used because it links
against Gtk2
* javafx embed is broken because it links against Gtk2

So clearly openjdk/oraclejdk (even the latest builds) links against
Gtk2, or am I wrong in this regard?

I can also prove what Andrey said: We have turned of Gtk3 on *all* our linux 
desktops because there are too many problems with it.

Tom

On 08.10.14 16:18, Aleksandar Kurtakov wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Andrey Loskutov" <losku...@gmx.de<mailto:losku...@gmx.de>>
>> To: "Cross project issues" 
>> <cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org<mailto:cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org>>,
>>  "Aleksandar Kurtakov" <akurt...@redhat.com<mailto:akurt...@redhat.com>> >> 
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 8, 2014 5:11:53 PM
>> Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Limiting GTK versions supported by 
>> SWT or SWT call for help >>
>> BTW we at Advantest are still using RHEL 5.8, even because RHEL has crazy >> 
>> long support times :o)
>>
>> Limiting to GTK3 only and drop GTK2 ports for *new* Eclipse releases would 
>> be >> good idea but AFAK GTK3 SWT port is still problematic (I'm on *latest* 
>> >> Ubuntu and must turn it off).
>>
>> In general I would also prefer to have always *one* (smallest possible from 
>> >> latest GTK on major distros) SWT port for latest Eclipse release but that 
>> >> port must be 99% usable.
>>
>> I won't hijack the thread, but the best long term solution for SWT Linux >> 
>> ports and Eclipse UI toolkit in general would be to move away from SWT to >> 
>> Java FX or better Qt (I know Qt LGPL license is a showstopper, but this *is* 
>> >> technically viable alternative). Without the man power of IBM (which >> 
>> originally allowed SWT to be developped for so many different plattforms) >> 
>> SWT as we have it today has no feature.
>
> Options are endless. But let's try to limit the discussion towards Mars and 
> Mars+1 for now. In this timeframe I don't think a new option will pop up and 
> I'm trying to solve our daily issues first so we can try to look a bit 
> further. >
>
> Alexander Kurtakov
> Red Hat Eclipse team
>
>>
>>
>> Am 8. Oktober 2014 16:44:30 OESZ, schrieb Aleksandar Kurtakov
>> <akurt...@redhat.com<mailto:akurt...@redhat.com>>:
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Mat Booth" <mat.bo...@redhat.com<mailto:mat.bo...@redhat.com>>
>>>> To: "Cross project issues" 
>>>> <cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org<mailto:cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org>>
>>>>  >>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 8, 2014 4:27:25 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Limiting GTK versions
>>> supported by SWT or SWT call for help
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Igor Fedorenko" <i...@ifedorenko.com<mailto:i...@ifedorenko.com>>
>>>>> To: 
>>>>> cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org<mailto:cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, 8 October, 2014 12:38:10 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Limiting GTK versions
>>> supported by
>>>>> SWT or SWT call for help
>>>>>
>>>>> What major distribution still stuck with GTK2? Aren't they all on >>> GTK3
>>>>> already?
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Igor
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> RHEL 6/CentOS 6 only has GTK 2.20, IIRC
>>
>>
>> --
>> Kind regards,
>> Andrey Loskutov
>>
>> http://google.com/+AndreyLoskutov
>>
> _______________________________________________
> cross-project-issues-dev mailing list
> cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org<mailto:cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org>
> To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or unsubscribe from 
> this list, visit > 
> https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/cross-project-issues-dev
>

_______________________________________________
cross-project-issues-dev mailing list
cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org<mailto:cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org>
To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or unsubscribe from 
this list, visit 
https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/cross-project-issues-dev

_______________________________________________
cross-project-issues-dev mailing list
cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org
To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or unsubscribe from 
this list, visit
https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/cross-project-issues-dev

Reply via email to