----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marc Khouzam" <marc.khou...@ericsson.com> > To: "Cross project issues" <cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org> > Sent: Thursday, October 9, 2014 2:33:56 AM > Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Limiting GTK versions supported by > SWT or SWT call for help > > Here too: we've turned off GTK3 for eclipse on our Ubuntu desktops because it > wasn't stable enough. > > Also we have servers running RHEL 6 (only has GTK 2) and people actually run > eclipse on them.
RHEL 6.0-6.5 has GTK 2.20 and RHEL 6.6 has GTK 2.24. Nothing changes for them. Support for versions older than 2.18 is subject of discussion. > > I appreciate the hard work the SWT team has put into GTK3 support. But it > seems to be too much of a moving target to only have that option. Why not > stick to GTK2 (or at least until GTK3 is more stable)? I'll say again that GTK 2 support will not be dropped in general. But your question is right in the target - sticking to anything requires people to maintain it and we don't have them. If active contributors to SWT care for fixing SWT on GTK 3 issues we have to adapt to it. So whoever (if anyone) really cares about it should find a way to keep it working. GTK 2.x support is bitrotting too - Google Talk (fixed in very latest version) or Blue Jeans plugin will crash it if installed, oxygen-gtk theme (default on Kubuntu) crash it from to time and etc. Noone steps in to fix this problems so SWT on GTK 2 is not silver bullet. Alexander Kurtakov Red Hat Eclipse team > > > BR, > > Marc > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Tom Schindl <tom.schi...@bestsolution.at> > To: "cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org" > <cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org> > Sent: 08/10/2014 18:16 > Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Limiting GTK versions supported by > SWT or SWT call for help > > > > hi, > > dropping Gtk2 means: > * swing embed is broken when the Gtk-Theme is used because it links > against Gtk2 > * javafx embed is broken because it links against Gtk2 > > So clearly openjdk/oraclejdk (even the latest builds) links against > Gtk2, or am I wrong in this regard? > > I can also prove what Andrey said: We have turned of Gtk3 on *all* our > linux desktops because there are too many problems with it. > > Tom > > On 08.10.14 16:18, Aleksandar Kurtakov wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Andrey Loskutov" <losku...@gmx.de> > >> To: "Cross project issues" <cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org>, > >> "Aleksandar Kurtakov" <akurt...@redhat.com> > >> Sent: Wednesday, October 8, 2014 5:11:53 PM > >> Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Limiting GTK versions supported by > >> SWT or SWT call for help > >> > >> BTW we at Advantest are still using RHEL 5.8, even because RHEL has crazy > >> long support times :o) > >> > >> Limiting to GTK3 only and drop GTK2 ports for *new* Eclipse releases would > >> be > >> good idea but AFAK GTK3 SWT port is still problematic (I'm on *latest* > >> Ubuntu and must turn it off). > >> > >> In general I would also prefer to have always *one* (smallest possible > >> from > >> latest GTK on major distros) SWT port for latest Eclipse release but that > >> port must be 99% usable. > >> > >> I won't hijack the thread, but the best long term solution for SWT Linux > >> ports and Eclipse UI toolkit in general would be to move away from SWT to > >> Java FX or better Qt (I know Qt LGPL license is a showstopper, but this > >> *is* > >> technically viable alternative). Without the man power of IBM (which > >> originally allowed SWT to be developped for so many different plattforms) > >> SWT as we have it today has no feature. > > > > Options are endless. But let's try to limit the discussion towards Mars and > > Mars+1 for now. In this timeframe I don't think a new option will pop up > > and I'm trying to solve our daily issues first so we can try to look a bit > > further. > > > > > > Alexander Kurtakov > > Red Hat Eclipse team > > > >> > >> > >> Am 8. Oktober 2014 16:44:30 OESZ, schrieb Aleksandar Kurtakov > >> <akurt...@redhat.com>: > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>> From: "Mat Booth" <mat.bo...@redhat.com> > >>>> To: "Cross project issues" <cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org> > >>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 8, 2014 4:27:25 PM > >>>> Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Limiting GTK versions > >>> supported by SWT or SWT call for help > >>>> > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>>> From: "Igor Fedorenko" <i...@ifedorenko.com> > >>>>> To: cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org > >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, 8 October, 2014 12:38:10 PM > >>>>> Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Limiting GTK versions > >>> supported by > >>>>> SWT or SWT call for help > >>>>> > >>>>> What major distribution still stuck with GTK2? Aren't they all on > >>> GTK3 > >>>>> already? > >>>>> > >>>>> -- > >>>>> Regards, > >>>>> Igor > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> RHEL 6/CentOS 6 only has GTK 2.20, IIRC > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Kind regards, > >> Andrey Loskutov > >> > >> http://google.com/+AndreyLoskutov > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > cross-project-issues-dev mailing list > > cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org > > To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or unsubscribe > > from this list, visit > > https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/cross-project-issues-dev > > > > _______________________________________________ > cross-project-issues-dev mailing list > cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org > To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or unsubscribe from > this list, visit > https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/cross-project-issues-dev > _______________________________________________ > cross-project-issues-dev mailing list > cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org > To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or unsubscribe from > this list, visit > https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/cross-project-issues-dev > _______________________________________________ cross-project-issues-dev mailing list cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or unsubscribe from this list, visit https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/cross-project-issues-dev
