What does Apache Aries have to do with this?
There's no references to Apache anything in the Jetty WebSocket layers in
code nor in the manifests.
Where is this reference / dependency coming from?
Certainly not Jetty.


On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 7:39 AM, Doug Schaefer <[email protected]> wrote:

> Can your code not depend on an older version of jetty. Or is only one
> version of jetty allowed in a given bundle stack?
>
> Doug.
>
> On 2015-09-16, 4:50 AM, "[email protected] on
> behalf of Max Rydahl Andersen"
> <[email protected] on behalf of
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> >So jetty keeps on giving us some grief now and I think it is worth
> >raising this
> >since it has some nasty effects.
> >
> >If I had the option I would wish Jetty was reverted back to .9/.10 in
> >Mars.1 until a more permanent/non-breaking option could be found,
> >but I assume that is too late. Details below:
> >
> >The new issue is that to use webSockets from jetty one now need to
> >include Apache Aries to make it work.
> >
> >in 9.2.9 and 9.2.10 this was not necessary, but 9.2.11-13 seem to
> >require this.
> >
> >Now, I know simrel do not include jetty websockets, so it does not
> >(currently) affect simrel directly;
> >but it for sure affects its adopters.
> >
> >In short jetty definitely do not retain backwards compatibility between
> >its .z releases (9.2.9, 9.2.10 and 9.2.11-13 all behaves differently)
> >    - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=477385
> >    - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=461919#c4
> >
> >There seem to be no way for us to use jetty inside eclipse and be sure
> >the code will work on both Mars.0 and Mars.1.
> >
> >I know jetty is not directly participating in the simrel train (the
> >above is probably part of why ;),
> >but I think these latest events raises the issue that simrel should
> >not just move up to the latest Jetty version.
> >
> >The reason we (jboss tools) did not spot this was that the change in
> >Mars for jetty was not visible before latest August
> >and that was right in the middle of vacation time.
> >
> >Comments/suggestions/explanations on this would be great!
> >
> >/max
> >
> >
> >> I don't want to hijack the other thread, but it is related.
> >>
> >> JBoss Tools noticed that Jetty has some funky API changes going
> >> on which unless you are super careful things breaks.
> >>
> >> See https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=477385
> >>
> >> basically jetty 9.2.9, 9.2.10 and 9.2.13 are not compatible
> >> with/between each other.
> >>
> >> Resulting in if platform ships some parts of jetty 9.2.13 and your
> >> manifest says it works with 9.2.10 (jetty owns libraries says it does)
> >> then things fall apart since you end up with a mix of 9.2.10 and
> >> 9.2.13 in your install and that just don't work.
> >>
> >> Just wondering if others seen this and/or got any tips to better fix
> >> this going forward (besides restricting ones version range to 9.2.10
> >> and nothing else)
> >>
> >> /max
> >> http://about.me/maxandersen
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> >/max
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