The testing I've done so far hasn't shown any difference with the "Has
users playing" option (no servers show up when checked).
Two days ago, I had 300-400 servers display in my server browser, since
yesterday, here are my results:
http://gflclan.com/gamemann/screenshots/Screenshot_11-26-14-23-26-36.png
This is a major problem and needs to be fixed...
Thanks.
On 11/26/2014 10:31 PM, Hugo Tavares wrote:
Guys I did some tests lately and I found the issue. Which was an
intended change which became a problem.
This change actually affects all games that use steam server browser.
Issue is, it's more noticeable on CS:GO because of the amount of my
servers. The tests I did to reach this conclusion:
NOTE: I am from UK. Also all this tests were done around 23:30 GMT+0 (BST)
*
Went on CS:GO searched for servers, only 1000 pops up and none of
them are from US or Asia (started to notice on the late night on
Europe due to many empty servers), when I noticed that I wondered
why it kept doing that. So I found this:
https://github.com/ValveSoftware/halflife/issues/769#issuecomment-14911881 ,
I thought it was only on 1.6 but I found that it happens on all games.
*
Decided to do more research, games such has DoD 1.3, DoD:S , and
such games that has a lower server number it showed up all servers
including the ones from US and Asia and such.
*
Went back to TF2, CS:S, 1.6 also had such issues, since the total
server number is really high. From there I noticed it only happens
on games that it has a high amount of servers, it starts to
filtering for some odd reason. According to that link I posted
above it seems it only shows servers near your IP Geolocation with
some rare exceptions.
*
So since such issue happens I found that I should force to LOWER
the amount of servers it's being asked to the masterserver to
update. So I decided to set my filters to "No Password", it didn't
work at all, WHEN I tried to setup "Has users playing" I found
that the game/steam server browser (Started first with CS:GO but I
did also on TF2, CS:S, 1.6, also in steam server browser not only
in game) starts showing servers from US, China, and so on, and I
compared to the list presented on Game Monitor which I know it's
not accurate but it gives a perception of what you are missing
(also used www.serverbrowser.com <http://www.serverbrowser.com>),
so I wonder why is not working with "No password" and it is
with "has users playing"??
*
So I ended up ticking off the box from "No password" and it showed
up servers with password, but when I unticked "Has users playing"
I noticed it didn't update anything. So I came to the conclusion
when you use "Has users playing" masterserver ignores all empty
servers, which causes your list to have a lot less servers and
starting to require more to keep a certain threshold which I don't
know what it is, since differs from game and from day time.
*
After this next day, around 19:00 which is CS:GO peak time and I
noticed same didn't happen anymore. Since many EU servers are
populated and are more than enough to show up in the server it
never showed up more than the usual nearby EU servers (even start
filtering servers from Sweden, Finland, and so on even near me).
So with this I found this is a issue with the new Steam Server
Protocol which is terrible for mod communities.
Some keypoints and conclusions about this research, more of TL;DR:
*
Issue is NOT on CS:GO but it is on Steam Server Browser protocol
since lastest update to ignore sv_region and it happens on games
total server numbers is really high
*
Filtering what you request from the masterserver seems to work
quite perfectly.
*
External websites such as Game-Monitor, ServerBrowser seems to
work as they use different ways to refresh servers from the master
servers
*
on CS:GO test if you do on Steam Server Browser NEVER works
because it shows all Valve servers on it, which causes to be a
large number of servers being retrieved therefore you are never
able to get more servers than the ones near you
*
The only setting to far to seem to fix is "Has users playing"
others such as No password, tag filtering, map filtering, ping,
location, part of the world, is not full does not work.
So Valve needs seriously to rethink what they have done, this can hurt
many communities on the long run, not only on CS:GO but also in others
games, gladly small player base games such as DoD don't have that
problem or the game would die quickly.
Sent from Windows Mail
*From:* Gamemann <mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent:* ?Monday?, ?November? ?24?, ?2014 ?9?:?13? ?PM
*To:* [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
Dear Counter-Strike: Global Offensive developers and server owners,
I need to address the current state of the modding community and why
things must change. The modding community is lacking major
functionality at the moment. First, I want to talk about how important
the CS:GO modding community is. Counter-Strike: Source and
Counter-Strike are still alive due to the modding community. Server
owners put time and effort into creating servers and providing a
unique gaming experience for players. Ever since CS:GO launched, the
modding community hasn't gone anywhere due to the modding community
not having the right tools to prosper.
The first major issue in CS:GO is the unfinished community server
browser. This issue has been discussed multiple times but Valve has
been quiet about the issue. The community server browser will one day
display 500-1000 servers and the next day display only 10-60 servers.
These servers usually have a password or are Valve official servers.
The CS:GO's community server browser should be similar to CS:S's
community server browser where it will show all community servers
(5000+ servers), with the default region set to "ALL". It should also
filter all Valve's official servers since they will flood the server
browser results. Many well-done community servers lack population and
the unfinished community server browser is to blame.
The next major issue in CS:GO is the "qconnect" attack. There have
been servers down for months straight from the "qconnect" attack. Many
communities have sent e-mails to Valve about the attack but no useful
responses were sent back. These attacks disguise themselves as
legitimate packets, therefore blocking the attack through the firewall
blocks all legitimate traffic. These IPs are spoofed, therefore we
cannot filter per IP address through the firewall. The command
"sv_max_queries_sec_global" doesn't work correctly, when at a
ridiculously high value (9999999999), the server doesn't use extra CPU
and rejects legitimate packets. The e-mail sent to Valve with more
information is here: http://pastebin.com/kLKi6fjm
The final issue is the model precache limit, usually the amount of
models isn't an issue, but the table includes materials. There have
been servers crashing with errors such as
"Warning: Table modelprecache is full, can't add materials/XXXX.vtf".
There should be a separate material precache table for materials only.
The limit at 1024 maximum models/materials is not enough for the
modding community and restricts the modding community from enabling
unique features that worked fine in CS:S.
I hope these major issues can be addressed.
Thanks.
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