I'm not sure how talking privately to some company about ads will fix
the issue that are ads.
I realize this is a response to suit your company best, a purely
official phrase in order to save face of your company here. I know that
there is no point in talking to you directly, but there is no reason why
I should not bring up what I believe is the unfortunate truth.
I brought valid points and concerns about how communities are run and in
order to save face you try to defame anyone who has valid critique.
I'd really love for Valve to extend the policy of truth further in light
of recent changes, and either require ad-running servers to be properly
tagged in the server browser, or blacklisted.
On 14.12.2015 14:46, Patrick W wrote:
Thanks for your input, I will take the debate on this no further,
please do not expect any more replies or input from me on the nature
of advertising, as that is not what this topic is intended for –
regardless of your next response.
I do not appreciate the political trolling at a detriment to all those
who want to fix the webkit for other purposes too, contact me
privately if you want to discuss advertising.
Thank you
*From:*csgo_servers-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:csgo_servers-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] *On Behalf Of
*Matthias "InstantMuffin" Kollek
*Sent:* 14 December 2015 13:42
*To:* csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
*Subject:* Re: [Csgo_servers] Latest steam update broke the webkit in-game
It's kind of shady that people went forth asking for the MOTDs to be
fixed, and listed a lot of use cases except for ads (which they are
all using MOTDs for).
I get that you're trying to promote and save your company here, but
what you're saying is still bullshit.
These player-abusing communities shouldn't be online in the first
place. I have yet to find a single decent server (no p2w, no
pseudo-donations, not being hosted by actual, clueless kids) that does
run ads.
You are part and reason for the change that underwent in financing
communities. From either a bunch of friends that love to play the game
who throw together the money, or communities that create and manage
their own creative, sophisticated and unique content (and could
therefore rely on actual donations), to teenagers that need to rent as
many cheap and slow VPSs as possible to run as many servers with ads
as possible (and other thrown-together things like p2w-systems and
weapon skins), trying to force the young target group of players to
hop on and indulge your horrors.
5-10 years ago it was not normal to:
-Get unfair advantages on community servers for money
-Get market item usage rights on community servers for money
-Have an ad played per round (an [expletive] loud one at that)
-Be forced to enable dynamic motds in order to join teams (therefore
theoretically infringing the policy of truth, by not properly stating
in the server browser that this server is not freely available, but
has certain requirements)
So yeah, please throw the first stone if you think this development is
not abusive. Just letting you know you're being a joke though.
On 14.12.2015 14:22, Patrick W wrote:
In reply to your abusive email “Hasser Css” – we are the reason
hundreds of communities continue to be online each month, without
adequate financial resources a lot of popular servers would die.
I am sure trolling on here is not permitted, so let’s keep things
professional, and the maturity level of the thread high.
*From:*csgo_servers-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
<mailto:csgo_servers-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com>
[mailto:csgo_servers-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] *On Behalf Of
*Hasser Css
*Sent:* 14 December 2015 13:18
*To:* csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
<mailto:csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com>
*Subject:* Re: [Csgo_servers] Latest steam update broke the webkit
in-game
Good riddance! Hope this stays "broken" like this.
Fuck your ads for contributing to ruining public server reputation
etc in Valve's other games. Is the one impression when they first
connect not enough for you? Have to force it into their face every
time they die, do you?
On Monday, December 14, 2015, Patrick W <patric...@motdgd.com
<mailto:patric...@motdgd.com>> wrote:
FAO Valve & members:
We have had a lot of complaints from many server owners: The
latest steam client update broke the webkit in-game for
anything other than initial page hit.
Counterstrike titles and TF2 are all affected.
Thanks
Patrick
Company Director
MOTDgd Ltd
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