Sorry for the late reply. My comments below As far as I know-- one reason why Moblin changed target-- is because > integrating clutter's 3d/opengl based UI widgets made 3d acceleration a > pre-requisite-- and hence helped intel tie it to it's atom processor with > integrated graphics chipset atleast equivalent to a celeron 1.7 ghz. >
Moblin was always targetted for the x86 MID systems. It still is. My encounter with Moblin came in 2008 LinuxAsia conference. Intel was demoing Moblin and talking on topics like future of Mobile computing there. Moblin was founded to adress the peculiar problem. Lack of x86 softwares optimised for power and screen estate. The early builds of Moblin simply used to branch from ubuntu mobile codebase and work from there. Hildon Window Decorator was used during ubuntu codebase era. They then later changed ships to fedora, for reasons I never understood. Clutter usage started in fedora codebase era. However, while they were able to make to UI user friendly with clutter, the lack of applications was still a problem. I suppose that's why they turned to Maemo for help. Maemo has a strong community support. Buddy-- I wanna see your AIGO P8860-- can I come to one of your > meetings/demo-sessions-- and check out your AIGO as well as see people's > demos and maybe give folks a dose of motivation ? > The above problem ( of lack of applications ) will be obvious to you when you see the device. The device's OS is Midinux <http://www.redflag-linux.com/en/product_end.php?class1=12&class2=1&productid=1>, made by RedFlag. Its kinda alpha build so full of chinese stuff. Makes it somewhat useless. However, the H/W shows its power when called for, capable to play x264 encoded movies with any Jitter! But lack of applications makes it difficult for everyday use. You are welcome to see and try out the device. I would like to hear your feedback. Regards Aditya Vishwakarma Undergraduate Student, IT Department NSIT, Delhi University, India On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 3:28 AM, Nalin Savara <[email protected]> wrote: > My message below: > > > On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 3:15 AM, Aditya Vishwakarma < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Dude-- you're preaching to the choir here!!! >>> The Android port of quake was by a guy called ... and was based on the >>> port of Quake for N900-- the Nokia phone which runs on the Linux derived >>> Maemo Operating System. >>> >>> Did you know-- in the coming 2 years-- Nokia is going to shift it's >>> N-series and XPress Music phones away from Symbian to Maemo; which is 100% >>> open-source ? >>> >>> Did you know that Maemo currently uses a port of GTK for it's GUI >>> controls and widgets-- but Nokia's shifting away from GTK to a port of QT >>> for Maemo-- which is under development right now ??? >>> >>> My company is one of the 7 companies in India which has been selected to >>> be in it's Maemo partner program also-- so we have the inside cutting edge >>> on many developments in that arena. >>> >> >> Well Well Well... >> >> Since you work this close to Maemo, I think you would know about >> MeeGo<http://meego.com/>(Moblin + Maemo Merger). >> Well I came across moblin about 2 yrs ago (in its infancy). Loved the idea >> of x86 based mobile system. Last year, they had a student development >> contest running in which my app was selected. This was where I started >> development for this particular platform. Those days windows decorator was >> handled by gtk port ( Hildon I think ) developed mostly for Maemo. So had to >> access a lot of Maemo developer resources. I won a AIGO P8860 :) >> Anyways, Moblin changed target and moved from MID's to netbook/nettops. >> Leaving lots of people stranded. Apparently ( I agree with them ) Atom + 945 >> chipset took too much power to fit into a pocket. >> However, recently I came across moblin + Maemo merger (MeeGo), and was >> wondering if the target arch is x86 or not. I do know that Intel is planning >> to get MIDs out this year. >> Its been too long a wait for a x86 based mobile device. >> >> > Dude... the target is definitely 32-bit Intel Atom processors. > > Infact, the earlier message I sent-- was from a intel atom netbook running > win7-- which can also boot into Moblin (from a pen drive OR other HDD > partition)-- and that's the target for meego too. > > Infact one reason moblin became x86-only is because last year Intel had > bought out this UK based company that used 3d GUI toolkits that used opengl > (and hence assumed hw accelerated 3d) to draw UI components. > > So, (if you've seen newer moblin builds on x86)-- you'll see how awesome > they look. > > I think meego will also use the same. > The name of the 3d ui toolkit was called Clutter-- and it is now fully > integrated into moblin. > > I hope this helps. > > Buddy-- I wanna see your AIGO P8860-- can I come to one of your > meetings/demo-sessions-- and check out your AIGO as well as see people's > demos and maybe give folks a dose of motivation ? > > Regards, > > Nalin >
