Hallo Paul, This was my response to your first question about the same topic; posted in Holland on Mon Dec 26 02:07:04 CST 2005 (time notation in my send-box: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 09:07:04 +0100).
I tried to forward it to you (only) on Tue, 27 Dec 2005 05:39:35 +0100. It seems it did not reach you in the one or other way. My suggestion was to start a whole new <ul>, illustrated with working test page for IE, FF and Opera. Hope you can use my remarks & alternative. Or do you think it's not good enough for your purpose? francky > >Tue Dec 20 20:26:15 CST 2005 >Paul Walker wrote: > >I have unordered list that is absolutely positioned within another >unordered list. The display is defined to block and the width is >set to 100%, but in IE the width is not quite reaching 100%. >It works fine in Firefox and I have not tested in other browsers. >> >>The example file can be seen here. >>http://www.paulwalker.tv/tabs.htm >> >>I welcome any other general comments regarding my markup and css. I remarked some other things in http://www.paulwalker.tv/tabs.htm: in FF there is a scrollbar left-right at the bottom (about 5px scrollable, but nevertheless), in Opera the submenu-items stay vertical, and (in all browsers) things go wrong when trying to enlarge the fontsize (clientside). The last because of the fixed format of the bg-image. So I tried to build it up from scratch, to see where the ship would go down; with one of the Suckerfishes as a save harbour to start (omitting the vertical sublisting when hovering - in the same time no sf-javascript for hovering in IE needed). With trial and error (not so good in the theory ;-), I found that it has also to do with the doctype: in FF in some doctypes you cannot (anyway: I couldn't) get rid of the margin between an omitted list-img and the starting of the text (at list-style-type: none). The problem is to get the whole thing liquid and getting the subitems horizontal as well. In Firefox I had it working, but I didn't succeed in IE and Opera. Then I decided to separate the subitems within the <li>'s of the items. I made separate <ul>'s for all the subitems. This way the subitems can be made horizontally again in IE and Opera. Not for the css beauty top-100, but as long as you have static pages (and don't need a show of the subitems by hovering the items), it doesn't matter for the effect on screen. * That can be a problem for no-style readers: the submenu-items show on the same level as the menu-items, without any correspondency. But with some extra skip-/go to-links (with margin-left -9999px hided for normal seeing) I think this problem can be reduced. Well, in the end I got a "working draft" (a bit "nightly build" too ;-), without using position:absolute: http://home.tiscali.nl/developerscorner/css-discuss/paulwalker-francky.htm Perhaps this is something in the good direction, I hope you can use it for further development. franky ps: last times I could not reach the original anymore; happily I did not empty my cache ! Cannot send to Paul Walker <paul at paulwalker.tv> at the moment: server down? ______________________________________________________________________ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ ______________________________________________________________________ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/