Els wrote:

>Gunlaug Sørtun wrote:
>  
>
>>Haven't bothered to fix IE6 for this yet, and I wonder how IE7
>>will render it, but I think most other browsers will treat it
>>fine. <http://www.gunlaug.no/contents/wd_chaos_17.html>
>>
>>Maybe someone care to test it in 'IE7 latest', and let me know
>>what to make out of that browser's support for min/max..?
>>    
>>
>IE7 (20Mar) renders this page just like Opera and FF :-)
>Min- and max-width and -height are supported fine in IE7 afaics.
>
Hi,
Friday morning, before work, I had almost some testpages/solutions online.
Friday night, after work, I saw a whole list in the list about this 
topic.... too late? Not completely. :-)
 
@Georg: I looked under my Win98SE to the Chaotic test page #17 
<http://www.gunlaug.no/contents/wd_chaos_17.html>.
I think the starting question of Treve: "say you have a page/design 
that's 900px wide, but you want anyone with a view portal of say 800px 
to see the _rightmost_ 800px........." can be extended in two different 
ways:

".... and cut the rest off."

    * In this way the page is the answer. Under Win98SE in FF, Opera
      (7.54 and 8.01 here), NS6 and in Moz1.71, I found:  the text "I'm
      sorry, but some of this text will disappear" is perfectly cut off,
      when the page is seen in a screenwidth of less then 848px. And no
      scrollbar to help: just cut off.
      See screenshot FF at 800x600 resolution
      
<http://home.tiscali.nl/developerscorner/css-discuss/images/screenshot-chaoticFF800x600.gif>.

    * In this way IE6 (under Win98SE again), though giving a good
      looking page, is wrong. The "I'm sorry" div is forced to contract
      in the available screen width (even at 640x480 everything on
      board). So the "900px wide" condition is not fulfilled. As you
      said "in need of help with min/max".
      See screenshot IE at 640x480 resolution
      
<http://home.tiscali.nl/developerscorner/css-discuss/images/screenshot-chaoticIE640x480.gif>.

".... and show us a scrollbar to go to the left side."

    * This was the way I interpreted the question. (but Treve didn't
      show up yet after his question).

@Chris Heilmann: I looked at the "dirty non-js solution" page 
<http://icant.co.uk/sandbox/anchored.html#anchored>.
And my first thought after I opening was "That's not fair! I had to 
work, and now he's first!"  ;-)
In the source code I saw some different px in the width's, and all 
backgrounds are white, so you cannot see what is ending where; and in a 
resolution of 800x600 the page looks just the same: no scrollbar to get 
a 900px width item in the page (for there wasn't a 900px item).
Translated it to the 900px from the original question, and: testpage 
<http://home.tiscali.nl/developerscorner/css-discuss/test-anchored.html#anchored>.
Yes! Working for all resolutions. Fine in all browsers I tested. - Stop!
The newer Opera's don't get the right shift of the #anchor, and don't 
work: screenshot 
<http://home.tiscali.nl/developerscorner/css-discuss/images/screenshot-chaoticOp800x600.gif>.
See also remarks in my testpages (same problem).

Some more news?
Yes, I finished my testpages 
<http://home.tiscali.nl/developerscorner/css-discuss/scrollbar-right-side-1.htm>.
There is indeed a ccs-solution, even without hacks for our Big Friend 
Browser Who Knows Everything Better. Only I didn't find a css trick for 
Opera.
Conclusion: css solution, js solution and combined css+js solution are 
possible.

Greetings,
and nice days to all,
francky
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